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applegrove

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24. I'm saying I would not be surprised if Putin encouraged corruption to the extent
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 09:42 PM
Mar 2014

Last edited Mon Mar 24, 2014, 08:07 PM - Edit history (1)

the Ukrainian debt rose astronomically. You know...race the country into the ground knowing the Europeans would insist on some form of austerity. I read it was $20 Billion the Ukrainians needed and only $9 or 10 Billion the EU was offering. The Russians offered a bit more plus discounted prices on fuel from their pipelines to the tune of another $7 Billion. Making the Ukrainians forced to go there and join with Russia. The same as Ronnie Reagan did when he upped the arms race and ran the Soviet Union into the ground. Or what George W. Bush did when he gave tax cuts to the rich to force a higher debt and the resulting austerity and cuts in social programs the GOP hoped it would force Bush's successor to enact. After all the amount of Ukraine money stolen by corruption has to go somewhere. I doubt it would be put in the West. Some of it must be in Russia. I'm sure Putin would know part of it.

2+ million in gold truthisfreedom Mar 2014 #1
Plus almost $5 million in cash. Can you imagine what he has in some offshore bank? nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #16
In the poor country of Ukraine. dotymed Mar 2014 #17
They two aren't comparable. The US doesn't come anywhere near the former Soviet countries in okaawhatever Mar 2014 #18
Here in the U.S.A. we are simply more sophisticated about it. hunter Mar 2014 #20
$1.8 million at current prices. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #22
Kleptocracy at its finest. Bette Noir Mar 2014 #2
He was appointed by the recently overthrown Yanukovych and was considered part of his inner okaawhatever Mar 2014 #4
This is one of the 'embezzlers' who ran off to Russia?, Putin was probably in on that gravy train. Sunlei Mar 2014 #3
The Boss always gets his cut. Always. Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #13
So that where the petty cash box was. DeSwiss Mar 2014 #5
glad it was recovered. Good riddance to the thieves. n/t OKNancy Mar 2014 #6
It was probably planted by Svoboda to make the previous government look bad MNBrewer Mar 2014 #7
But it's OK, because they weren't fascists.... Adrahil Mar 2014 #8
Bah! Chump change pscot Mar 2014 #9
It's just one of the cabinet ministers. What's that compared to a non-descript member of Svoboda stevenleser Mar 2014 #10
Where does the money go now? mahannah Mar 2014 #11
Probably back to the Dept of Energy, but somehow back to the Gov't. I hope they don't need to okaawhatever Mar 2014 #15
That's Putin's Buddy For You DallasNE Mar 2014 #12
I truly believe all sorts of Russian applegrove Mar 2014 #14
What actually scuttled the late November talks dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #23
I'm saying I would not be surprised if Putin encouraged corruption to the extent applegrove Mar 2014 #24
But the protesters on the Maidan had nothing really to protest. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #19
That gold was... JimboBillyBubbaBob Mar 2014 #21
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