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11. Change Begins with a Conversation

Reply to Kelvin Mace (Reply #9)

Thu May 1, 2014, 12:45 AM

May 2014

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Vatican to debate teachings on divorce, birth control, gay unions [View all] onehandle Apr 2014 OP

I will not be holding my breath. if something resembling thinking of the 21st century occurs, niyad Apr 2014 #1

"meeting of senior clerics" - no changes will come from that group rurallib May 2014 #27

It makes you wonder what there is to "debate" skepticscott Apr 2014 #2

and here is a bit of education on how the church actually works kwassa Apr 2014 #6

Yes, we get it skepticscott May 2014 #16

And all of these old men Kelvin Mace May 2014 #24

he is pushing an iceberg in a row boat. That is what is happening roguevalley May 2014 #14

Who's "he" and what does this have to do skepticscott May 2014 #17

Grand farce, just like everything in the Catholic church MANative Apr 2014 #3

+1. Will generate good publicity for a deeply corrupt institution marred closeupready May 2014 #31

"Grand farce, just like everything in the Catholic church" rug May 2014 #36

Ask me if I care what you think. n/t MANative May 2014 #50

I must repeat myself. rug May 2014 #55

Nothing about equality mikeyDE Apr 2014 #4

They will not have anyone outside their clergy having any direct input. LiberalFighter Apr 2014 #5

Didn't read the article, did you? kwassa May 2014 #7

I did read it. LiberalFighter May 2014 #12

This is a very positive step. kwassa May 2014 #8

An exercise in public relations, nothing more. closeupready May 2014 #32

Talk is not change Kelvin Mace May 2014 #9

Change Begins with a Conversation rpannier May 2014 #11

For Francis, any conversation that does not start with a strong condemnation Bluenorthwest May 2014 #20

The Catholic Church has been talking about its child molestation problem Kelvin Mace May 2014 #21

John Paul II covered for the notorious pedophile Marcial Maciel. olegramps May 2014 #28

I can just see the panel Warpy May 2014 #10

Exactly LiberalFighter May 2014 #13

Sounds like Vatican III is afoot. ucrdem May 2014 #15

God willing! otherone May 2014 #18

This looks to go far beyond Vatican II. ucrdem May 2014 #26

So let us review what Francis' 'bishops' are saying and doing right now: Bluenorthwest May 2014 #19

Oh, yes, my apologies I overlooked this Kelvin Mace May 2014 #22

I want to know where the OP and the others who promote these bigots Bluenorthwest May 2014 #23

Agreed Kelvin Mace May 2014 #25

To be honest, I can't believe people post this stuff while Uganda is raging Bluenorthwest May 2014 #30

This hypocrisy was what drove me to atheism Kelvin Mace May 2014 #33

Oh, but there's that "change from within" thingy skepticscott May 2014 #34

They can't change the Catholic Church from within Kelvin Mace May 2014 #40

The problem is, the more people leave skepticscott May 2014 #44

True, Kelvin Mace May 2014 #46

We can only hope skepticscott May 2014 #57

Agree. pinto May 2014 #52

What will you do when you encounter hypocrisy in atheism? rug May 2014 #38

Atheism isn't a religion, or an institution. Kelvin Mace May 2014 #41

"Some beliefs are so dangerous that it may be ethical to kill people for believing them” rug May 2014 #42

Ah, so this view is endorsed Kelvin Mace May 2014 #43

You're the one claiming that. rug May 2014 #56

Again, apples and oranges Kelvin Mace May 2014 #61

You don't need an "institution" to have hypocrisy in a movement. Politic 101. rug May 2014 #62

Again, not comparable Kelvin Mace May 2014 #66

This is about hypocrisy and hypocrites. rug May 2014 #67

Hypocrisy exists within institutions Kelvin Mace May 2014 #68

Why are you so concerned about analogues? The phenomenon stands on its own. rug May 2014 #71

You are claiming that the RCC is NOT a monolithic intistution/beliefe system? Kelvin Mace May 2014 #72

*hypocrisy in atheists NYC Liberal May 2014 #63

Thank you Kelvin Mace May 2014 #69

They realize they need to be more inclusive in their money making scam snooper2 May 2014 #29

The loathing for the Catholic Church is strong here. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #35

+1 rug May 2014 #37

What other surviving institution sanctioned torture of dissidents? closeupready May 2014 #39

The CIA? Seriously, are you referring to the Inquisition? That was 400 years ago. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #48

I don't want to argue, but agree with your point about urging Democratic votes closeupready May 2014 #49

"their support for the US GOP party and its pro-war policies" jberryhill May 2014 #53

Why wait? theHandpuppet May 2014 #45

It's a 2000-year-old institution. He's been pope for about a year. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #47

He's the Pope RIGHT NOW theHandpuppet May 2014 #51

Francis does not "promote progressive change", NYC Liberal May 2014 #64

+1 theHandpuppet May 2014 #65

Looks like the haters are gonna hate. Kingofalldems May 2014 #54

It's all about the wimmin, isn't it? CTyankee May 2014 #58

"An urgent meeting... this fall" dorkulon May 2014 #59

I think this is an important step, and also think the Pope needs to speak on Uganda. kwassa May 2014 #60

Kind of hilarious. . . . BigDemVoter May 2014 #70