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theHandpuppet

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45. Why wait?

Thu May 1, 2014, 04:46 PM

May 2014

He can prove right freaking now that he's serious about "progressive change" by recalling the bishops and archbishops of Uganda, Nigeria, Cameroon and Kenya, for starters. As it stands, his silence speaks volumes.

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Vatican to debate teachings on divorce, birth control, gay unions [View all] onehandle Apr 2014 OP

I will not be holding my breath. if something resembling thinking of the 21st century occurs, niyad Apr 2014 #1

"meeting of senior clerics" - no changes will come from that group rurallib May 2014 #27

It makes you wonder what there is to "debate" skepticscott Apr 2014 #2

and here is a bit of education on how the church actually works kwassa Apr 2014 #6

Yes, we get it skepticscott May 2014 #16

And all of these old men Kelvin Mace May 2014 #24

he is pushing an iceberg in a row boat. That is what is happening roguevalley May 2014 #14

Who's "he" and what does this have to do skepticscott May 2014 #17

Grand farce, just like everything in the Catholic church MANative Apr 2014 #3

+1. Will generate good publicity for a deeply corrupt institution marred closeupready May 2014 #31

"Grand farce, just like everything in the Catholic church" rug May 2014 #36

Ask me if I care what you think. n/t MANative May 2014 #50

I must repeat myself. rug May 2014 #55

Nothing about equality mikeyDE Apr 2014 #4

They will not have anyone outside their clergy having any direct input. LiberalFighter Apr 2014 #5

Didn't read the article, did you? kwassa May 2014 #7

I did read it. LiberalFighter May 2014 #12

This is a very positive step. kwassa May 2014 #8

An exercise in public relations, nothing more. closeupready May 2014 #32

Talk is not change Kelvin Mace May 2014 #9

Change Begins with a Conversation rpannier May 2014 #11

For Francis, any conversation that does not start with a strong condemnation Bluenorthwest May 2014 #20

The Catholic Church has been talking about its child molestation problem Kelvin Mace May 2014 #21

John Paul II covered for the notorious pedophile Marcial Maciel. olegramps May 2014 #28

I can just see the panel Warpy May 2014 #10

Exactly LiberalFighter May 2014 #13

Sounds like Vatican III is afoot. ucrdem May 2014 #15

God willing! otherone May 2014 #18

This looks to go far beyond Vatican II. ucrdem May 2014 #26

So let us review what Francis' 'bishops' are saying and doing right now: Bluenorthwest May 2014 #19

Oh, yes, my apologies I overlooked this Kelvin Mace May 2014 #22

I want to know where the OP and the others who promote these bigots Bluenorthwest May 2014 #23

Agreed Kelvin Mace May 2014 #25

To be honest, I can't believe people post this stuff while Uganda is raging Bluenorthwest May 2014 #30

This hypocrisy was what drove me to atheism Kelvin Mace May 2014 #33

Oh, but there's that "change from within" thingy skepticscott May 2014 #34

They can't change the Catholic Church from within Kelvin Mace May 2014 #40

The problem is, the more people leave skepticscott May 2014 #44

True, Kelvin Mace May 2014 #46

We can only hope skepticscott May 2014 #57

Agree. pinto May 2014 #52

What will you do when you encounter hypocrisy in atheism? rug May 2014 #38

Atheism isn't a religion, or an institution. Kelvin Mace May 2014 #41

"Some beliefs are so dangerous that it may be ethical to kill people for believing them” rug May 2014 #42

Ah, so this view is endorsed Kelvin Mace May 2014 #43

You're the one claiming that. rug May 2014 #56

Again, apples and oranges Kelvin Mace May 2014 #61

You don't need an "institution" to have hypocrisy in a movement. Politic 101. rug May 2014 #62

Again, not comparable Kelvin Mace May 2014 #66

This is about hypocrisy and hypocrites. rug May 2014 #67

Hypocrisy exists within institutions Kelvin Mace May 2014 #68

Why are you so concerned about analogues? The phenomenon stands on its own. rug May 2014 #71

You are claiming that the RCC is NOT a monolithic intistution/beliefe system? Kelvin Mace May 2014 #72

*hypocrisy in atheists NYC Liberal May 2014 #63

Thank you Kelvin Mace May 2014 #69

They realize they need to be more inclusive in their money making scam snooper2 May 2014 #29

The loathing for the Catholic Church is strong here. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #35

+1 rug May 2014 #37

What other surviving institution sanctioned torture of dissidents? closeupready May 2014 #39

The CIA? Seriously, are you referring to the Inquisition? That was 400 years ago. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #48

I don't want to argue, but agree with your point about urging Democratic votes closeupready May 2014 #49

"their support for the US GOP party and its pro-war policies" jberryhill May 2014 #53

Why wait? theHandpuppet May 2014 #45

It's a 2000-year-old institution. He's been pope for about a year. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #47

He's the Pope RIGHT NOW theHandpuppet May 2014 #51

Francis does not "promote progressive change", NYC Liberal May 2014 #64

+1 theHandpuppet May 2014 #65

Looks like the haters are gonna hate. Kingofalldems May 2014 #54

It's all about the wimmin, isn't it? CTyankee May 2014 #58

"An urgent meeting... this fall" dorkulon May 2014 #59

I think this is an important step, and also think the Pope needs to speak on Uganda. kwassa May 2014 #60

Kind of hilarious. . . . BigDemVoter May 2014 #70