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HuckleB

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25. It is interesting that the so-called seed growers don't seem to know the details, themselves.

Thu May 22, 2014, 10:06 AM

May 2014

http://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/tech/science/environment/2014/05/14/oregon-gmos-three-things-know/9086283/

Most farmers were very much against this measure.

"Opponents, including the Oregon Cattlemen's Association, Oregon Farm Bureau, Oregon Seed Council, Oregon Wheat Growers League and Oregon Women for Agriculture, urged voters to reject the proposal.

"This measure unnecessarily disadvantages farmers, threatens the economic viability of family farms, and will lead to farmers defending themselves in court against frivolous lawsuits," said Roger Beyer, executive director of the Oregon Seed Council.

Supporters say opponents are misleading voters with false claims, such as the charge that the measure would affect traditional hybrids.

"It's incredible that they are bringing in out-of-town speakers to tell Jackson County voters how to vote when they can't even list a handful of local farms on their supporter list," said Elise Higley, with the Our Family Farms Coalition."

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'Tide is Turning' as Oregon Voters Overwhelmingly Approve Ban of GE Crops [View all] Judi Lynn May 2014 OP

The corporations swayed the vote just north of there. freshwest May 2014 #1

So sorry, fresh! :( Cha May 2014 #5

The Big Chem and Agri-Pharma, sank it in California too. SoapBox May 2014 #8

Thanks for the links. n/t Judi Lynn May 2014 #49

What was their reason for the ban? ag_dude May 2014 #2

Yes. Based on what science? Texano78704 May 2014 #6

None. Archae May 2014 #14

According to which corporate spokes-spewers? AceAcme May 2014 #27

Excellent! Thanks for posting this. n/t Judi Lynn May 2014 #47

You are welcome, Judi L. AceAcme May 2014 #57

Based on seed production science Tumbulu May 2014 #21

It's as if.. sendero May 2014 #58

I want them all gone until unbiased testing has been done Tumbulu May 2014 #62

2000 peer reviewed and post publication assessed studies. HuckleB May 2014 #66

Well, I sure do care Tumbulu May 2014 #87

As usual, you just rant and rave without reason. HuckleB May 2014 #94

There are a lot of seed producers in this area Tumbulu May 2014 #11

What kind of seed? Main GMO crops are soybeans and corn. yellowcanine May 2014 #16

I am an organic seed grower and Tumbulu May 2014 #19

Point is you cannot tell a farmer what he can or cannot grow if it is a legal (U.S. law) crop. yellowcanine May 2014 #28

Nope, not true at all Tumbulu May 2014 #29

Not the same thing at all. The law as passed prohibits all GE crops. yellowcanine May 2014 #32

Wrong again Tumbulu May 2014 #40

Good thing you are talking to roody May 2014 #23

It is interesting that the so-called seed growers don't seem to know the details, themselves. HuckleB May 2014 #25

Oh yeah, here we go again Tumbulu May 2014 #30

"forget it, your side lost this one" You have no clue as to how this will play out. yellowcanine May 2014 #33

Science lost. Baseless fear won. HuckleB May 2014 #34

business interests won, small business interests in fact. Tumbulu May 2014 #41

Nice propaganda. HuckleB May 2014 #44

Very interesting choice of words Tumbulu May 2014 #46

I don't have an industry. HuckleB May 2014 #48

Just ignore it arikara May 2014 #107

You are right, nt Tumbulu May 2014 #108

Ever heard of Seed farmers' long struggle against Canola/Rapeseed? countryjake May 2014 #36

Yes, I do. I live in Oregon, and I discuss matters with them regularly. HuckleB May 2014 #37

What "red herring"? countryjake May 2014 #38

Facepalm. HuckleB May 2014 #39

Another rude response Tumbulu May 2014 #51

A rude response is dishonest. HuckleB May 2014 #52

Your posts speak for themselves Tumbulu May 2014 #54

Ah, yes, because bullies are the ones who have evidence to support their claims. HuckleB May 2014 #56

Yeah, what's up with that? I read of a personal encounter with a GMO rep on our Cha May 2014 #110

I have seen it my entire career Tumbulu May 2014 #112

I have noticed this Cha May 2014 #114

... Arugula Latte May 2014 #59

A picture? ag_dude May 2014 #61

free will and democracy. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #77

But they didn't, they banned this. ag_dude May 2014 #79

Welcome to every legislature ever. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #80

Weak. ag_dude May 2014 #82

Not quite what I was saying. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #83

We're using different definitions of stupid. ag_dude May 2014 #85

So, when the GOP goes anti-science on climate change, etc... HuckleB May 2014 #84

these are rural counties in the far southwest corner of the state central scrutinizer May 2014 #3

They're also some of the most anti-vaccine counties in the country. HuckleB May 2014 #17

yes, always malign and slander Tumbulu May 2014 #31

I've yet to see you support any of your claims with an actual consensus of science. HuckleB May 2014 #35

Oh you honestly think that hybridizing plants is the same thing as genetically engineering them? Tumbulu May 2014 #42

So you don't understand genetics. HuckleB May 2014 #43

Are you serious????? you honestly do not know Tumbulu May 2014 #45

I understand that you fail to understand genetics. HuckleB May 2014 #50

Support what claim? That genetic engineering Tumbulu May 2014 #53

Thanks for the confession. I appreciate it. HuckleB May 2014 #55

You think making hybrid crosses is the same as infecting Tumbulu May 2014 #63

Horizontal gene transfer is remarkably common. LTX May 2014 #65

Oh so it is name calling again?! Tumbulu May 2014 #89

There is massive regulatory oversight on GMOs. HuckleB May 2014 #67

More lies, and simply ridiculous. How is it that the Bt toxin got classified as the natural Bt Tumbulu May 2014 #90

Prove that the source lies. HuckleB May 2014 #99

Prove what? You can google the EPA registration of Bt cotton and corn Tumbulu May 2014 #102

As usual, you can't prove any of your claims. HuckleB May 2014 #103

I would just let that one go. Aerows May 2014 #70

You're the ones who are pushing fictions, because you don't understand the issue. HuckleB May 2014 #81

where you there 30 years ago when this all began? Tumbulu May 2014 #91

What other logical fallacies will you offer up? HuckleB May 2014 #98

Can't answer the question? Tumbulu May 2014 #101

I'm the only one who gives answers. HuckleB May 2014 #104

Oh you think cross pollinating plants is the same as molecular biology? Tumbulu May 2014 #88

You are so right, sorry I replied to you instead of the gmo bully nt Tumbulu May 2014 #96

It's okay :D n/t Aerows May 2014 #109

I appreciate your time out. U4ikLefty May 2014 #113

Genetic Engineering Aerows May 2014 #69

So you don't understand genetics either. HuckleB May 2014 #71

I don't understand genetics Aerows May 2014 #72

You have to show that you understand genetics. You are not showing that at all. HuckleB May 2014 #73

All of the evidence I have seen Aerows May 2014 #74

Prove these claims, please. HuckleB May 2014 #75

I'm actually not anti-GMO Aerows May 2014 #76

As I noted, you couldn't back up your claims. You simply moved the goalposts. HuckleB May 2014 #78

Oh our liar has the nerve to call someone else a liar? Tumbulu May 2014 #93

Please prove that I'm a liar. HuckleB May 2014 #95

Giving it a new name is simply lying, Tumbulu May 2014 #92

Nope. HuckleB May 2014 #97

You support how precise these guys were 30 years ago Tumbulu May 2014 #100

So you can't actually discuss any of this? HuckleB May 2014 #105

You cannot or will not answer my question Tumbulu May 2014 #106

Yay! I'd like a big ol congratulatory graphic for FB! We like to celebrate Cha May 2014 #4

"Buy and Lie"!!! That is FABULOUS!!!!! calimary May 2014 #7

I'm moving to Oregon... santamargarita May 2014 #9

I had "hope" that we had a Labeling Advocate in 2008: bvar22 May 2014 #10

I was one of those that voted to ban the Frankenfoods from my state . The Kochs are not going to geretogo May 2014 #12

We had a corporate-polluter move to take over the water system here in Portland ... Arugula Latte May 2014 #60

That's a hopeful sign . I am counting on the intelligent progressive Portland voters to give the geretogo May 2014 #68

Talk about hysteria and bullshit! Archae May 2014 #13

If you are a seed producer Tumbulu May 2014 #22

Some good news. I hope it spreads. QuestForSense May 2014 #15

Great news - thanks for the update! nt bananas May 2014 #18

K&R! DeSwiss May 2014 #20

I grew up in both counties davidpdx May 2014 #24

America at its best - a salute to wise citizens exercising human rights over corporate bullying AceAcme May 2014 #26

It's wise to go with fear mongering nonsense, and ignore the science? HuckleB May 2014 #86

Way to go, Oregon!! BuddhaGirl May 2014 #64

Good!! bravenak May 2014 #111