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37. Al Gore getting thrown under the bus

Tue Jun 10, 2014, 03:18 PM

Jun 2014

will complete the circle of where this place began to where it is today, and will create a quantum singularity that will destroy the universe.

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Al Gore: Edward Snowden's 'Important Service' [View all] Purveyor Jun 2014 OP

Does this mean Al is a Libertarian now? [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2014 #1

It means he is now under the bus! villager Jun 2014 #2

Gore Knows billhicks76 Jun 2014 #109

Indeed he does know- in fact he railed about it loudly in 2006... stlsaxman Jun 2014 #153

Thanks billhicks76 Jun 2014 #154

That was a great speech! Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #160

He knows because they worked for him for 8 years and he pulled the strings? 24601 Jun 2014 #158

Not What I Implied billhicks76 Jun 2014 #159

They responded to his tasking and he received their reports. After 8 years as VP, he certainly 24601 Jun 2014 #161

Agreed But billhicks76 Jun 2014 #162

Makes you wonder why he didn't speak out when he was in power. But on 2nd thought, it's not 24601 Jun 2014 #164

Fear billhicks76 Jun 2014 #165

LOL good joke! Almost thought you were serious until re-reading it and realizing it was parody for 24601 Jun 2014 #166

Not Joking billhicks76 Jun 2014 #167

Maybe he didn't "speak out" while he was VP because it wasn't stlsaxman Jul 2014 #200

I love your jokes. Tell the one again about how no abuses happened before 9/11. It has all of 24601 Jul 2014 #201

It seems you're the one joking to believe the NSA was anything resembling what happened after Bush Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #202

Thanks Uncle Joe. stlsaxman Jul 2014 #204

I think that it just means he is speaking his honest opinion. olddad56 Jun 2014 #3

Because no one at DU does that? merrily Jun 2014 #13

It's actually a pretty small bandwagon. Maedhros Jun 2014 #38

"We" have an answer for that, too. Two answers, really. merrily Jun 2014 #42

I'm pretty sure Maedhros meant the opposite LiberalLovinLug Jun 2014 #136

Indeed. [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2014 #145

My post contained two opposing scenarios. merrily Jun 2014 #175

In both scenerios LiberalLovinLug Jun 2014 #188

No, only Scenario one mentions a minority. Scenario 2 mentions a small majority. merrily Jun 2014 #194

I concede LiberalLovinLug Jun 2014 #195

It means he hates Obama tk2kewl Jun 2014 #5

And you know what that means. merrily Jun 2014 #44

Racist? Enthusiast Jun 2014 #49

Yes because AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #141

No, it just proves how self-serving Nader was when he constantly pnwmom Jun 2014 #28

Maybe some of the actions of the Clinton administration confused him. merrily Jun 2014 #93

It doesn't take any imagination, we know Gore would've been a different and better President Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #98

As I said, no matter how certain people think they are, they can't know. merrily Jun 2014 #101

Obama was a relative unknown not even finishing his first term as Senator before being elected Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #106

He'd had 12 years as a state senator, though, so it's not as though he had no record. And, there merrily Jun 2014 #107

State senators are much more obscure than holding national office and insofar as the NSA is Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #110

Whatever, dude. Like Lincoln, Obama had a record and a responsible citizen merrily Jun 2014 #187

He wasn't confused. He would say anything to get more votes for himself. pnwmom Jun 2014 #112

Unlike most politicians? Come on, now. merrily Jun 2014 #114

You're right. It's the essence of silliness to debate the idea Gore would have attacked Iraq. n/t pnwmom Jun 2014 #115

Please tell me you're kidding with that debating technique. merrily Jun 2014 #117

This thread has nothing to do with Nader. I hear the sound of axes grinding. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #203

Apparently so AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #140

Al Gore was a Russian pole dancer Newsjock Jun 2014 #4

There must be boxes in his garage! 1000words Jun 2014 #11

Can you please explain that? I've seen it so many times, but I don't get it. merrily Jun 2014 #116

It's origins were from early accounts of Snowden, from his neighbors. 1000words Jun 2014 #120

Aside from the fact that its almost always the Pro-snowden people using it against the Antis nt Bodhi BloodWave Jun 2014 #126

I think it's important to point out to the Snowden haters that Al Gore rhett o rick Jun 2014 #6

Democracy, is that like counting votes ? /nt jakeXT Jun 2014 #43

Sorry, I dont understand. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #47

Democracy existed in Ancient Athens. We have a republic, more like Ancient Rome. merrily Jun 2014 #105

From pottery shards to punch cards jakeXT Jun 2014 #111

Pottery shards are a bit bulky, but no hanging chads, dimpled chads, etc.! merrily Jun 2014 #113

We have a modern democracy. A representative democracy. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #129

We don't have 'one person, one vote' AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #142

That is what we need to change. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #189

Government by representative is the very definition of a republic. merrily Jun 2014 #183

Thanks for bringing this back to the point, RoR... MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #103

As for the SCOTUS, I am in Wash the State. We have two Democratic Senators rhett o rick Jun 2014 #123

Whether You Agree Or Disagree With Vice President Gore, We Should ALL Respect His Opinion!!! Corey_Baker08 Jun 2014 #118

I agree and respect Al Gore. Not sure your post is aimed at me. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #121

People become disagreeable because they are frustrated that they cannot find the words JDPriestly Jun 2014 #130

Excellent! JDPriestly Jun 2014 #128

Awesome Post billhicks76 Jun 2014 #155

K&R SamKnause Jun 2014 #7

Ah hurd Al Gore once ate an endangered sea bass ... DirkGently Jun 2014 #8

All right Al, get the fuck under that bus! mindwalker_i Jun 2014 #9

Too late. Below the bus status is automatic and instantaneous. merrily Jun 2014 #15

Kudos to Al Gore.... Another Inconvenient Truth= Snowden is a Patriot! bvar22 Jun 2014 #10

It's not fair to imply that those that hate Snowden and whistle-blowers in general also hate Democra rhett o rick Jun 2014 #48

Let the Gore trashing on DU commence Dopers_Greed Jun 2014 #12

Little chance of it, I think. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #58

Al Gore is FAT! nxylas Jun 2014 #61

It means he has an opinion that differs from others. We agree Snowden broke the law. kelliekat44 Jun 2014 #14

Gore was literally born into politics and law. He has a law degree. He got into Congress at 28. merrily Jun 2014 #20

He also played politics with Elian Gonzales' life. He can be wrong. randome Jun 2014 #22

That has nothing to do with being in a better position to judge intel matters than a DUer. merrily Jun 2014 #27

He refused to take a stand but was 'leaning' toward not returning the boy to his father. randome Jun 2014 #31

Even assuming your assessment is correct, your accusation seems to amount to merrily Jun 2014 #34

Eh. Gore has been out of politics for quite a while. randome Jun 2014 #51

Not at all. I've never served in a war zone, nor have I ever been briefed on classified info daily merrily Jun 2014 #52

Precisely. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #132

No, but the claim that all opinions on intel are equally valid is ludicrous. merrily Jun 2014 #182

I think you will eventually change your mind. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #131

I value many opinions of Al Gore but not all. And I am asking no one to value my opinion over kelliekat44 Jun 2014 #23

Similarly, I feel that many posters here would have reacted very differently if merrily Jun 2014 #29

What damage did he do to our securty? lark Jun 2014 #24

What the NSA types, Obama and Kerry have said. And no, aside from general claims, I have not heard merrily Jun 2014 #32

No specific claims of damage at all have been made by anyone that I've heard or seen. lark Jun 2014 #33

Candidly, even if they got specific, I would not take the word of the USG on something like this. merrily Jun 2014 #39

Exactly lark Jun 2014 #138

The most credible claims of damage refer to the anger of our allies Maedhros Jun 2014 #40

I so often agree with you, whether I post that or not, but not this time. merrily Jun 2014 #55

Oh, I don't think the claims of harm are valid, just that the "harmed relationships with allies" Maedhros Jun 2014 #66

IOW, the least false is still false? merrily Jun 2014 #70

Yes - I voted for that guy in 2008. Maedhros Jun 2014 #74

Beware of geeks (sic) bearing gifts. merrily Jun 2014 #82

Maybe even by the time he made his first selection for Senate approval, namely, Rahm. merrily Jun 2014 #86

The Democratic politicians for whom we are allowed to vote are largely imaginary entities, Maedhros Jun 2014 #89

Yep. Although, to be fair, the candidates on the Republican side are also products of merrily Jun 2014 #90

One thing to be said for the Republicans, though. Maedhros Jun 2014 #92

Maybe because they don't want to or have to? merrily Jun 2014 #94

That's been my thought for some time. Maedhros Jun 2014 #96

I don't know if that's all rank and file. merrily Jun 2014 #100

Two Words: Eric Cantor merrily Jun 2014 #168

Plus a gazillion, with a codicil: chervilant Jun 2014 #143

I think it is naive to believe that neither China nor Russia nor the Taliban would expect the US JDPriestly Jun 2014 #133

I don't think they were shocked. I think they knew. It seems evident Merkel did from her silly merrily Jun 2014 #176

Let's establish some perspective here. If the NSA is out of control, it may be very hard rhett o rick Jun 2014 #53

So what is this harm has been done? LiberalLovinLug Jun 2014 #139

Good for him! rosesaylavee Jun 2014 #16

omg, it's NUANCE!! BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2014 #17

Al Gore: Still FEARLESS! DesertDiamond Jun 2014 #18

There we go. closeupready Jun 2014 #19

Hair-on-fire hyperbole and nonsense OnyxCollie Jun 2014 #21

Sarcasm? lark Jun 2014 #25

Sorry Al... SoapBox Jun 2014 #26

Much as Reply #2 predicted. merrily Jun 2014 #63

Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Jun 2014 #30

Bravo. k/r 840high Jun 2014 #35

I think we must all feel some gratitude toward Gore. pennylane100 Jun 2014 #36

On this issue (classified info) in particular, he has far more basis to form an expert opinion merrily Jun 2014 #67

Al Gore getting thrown under the bus WilliamPitt Jun 2014 #37

Al Gore was thrown under the bus in 2000 when there were people claiming no difference JI7 Jun 2014 #41

And he's also thrown under the bus in this very thread. merrily Jun 2014 #72

he isn't being thrown under the bus, people may disagree but they aren't claiming he is like Bush JI7 Jun 2014 #73

So a post with a puke emote saying he's lost his marbles is not throwing him under the bus? merrily Jun 2014 #75

i didn't see that one but still one post JI7 Jun 2014 #76

It's early. And most of the posters who can't stand Snowden have not merrily Jun 2014 #78

multiple threads defending it JI7 Jun 2014 #80

Well, what you "said" was merrily Jun 2014 #84

i was referring to threads defending it JI7 Jun 2014 #85

For the third time, I missed the POS bit on multiple threads. Or on any thread. merrily Jun 2014 #87

i didn't miss them JI7 Jun 2014 #88

As I said, I find it hard to believe that I missed all of them. Yet, I did. merrily Jun 2014 #91

Kicked and recommended, I couldn't agree more. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #45

Al is right. Again. AzDar Jun 2014 #46

Al Gore obviously isn't paying attention. DesMoinesDem Jun 2014 #50

He HAS been a busy little termite, hasn't he? GliderGuider Jun 2014 #57

Sheesh! Mission or obsession? SaveOurDemocracy Jun 2014 #62

Obviously, mission. Maedhros Jun 2014 #146

Far more likely... JackRiddler Jun 2014 #147

day-um-- Ignore has been BUSY.... mike_c Jun 2014 #68

Heh ... 1000words Jun 2014 #122

Someone has been VERY busy . . . for an amateur. pa28 Jun 2014 #124

(So very glad that person is on my IL...) n/t chervilant Jun 2014 #144

Hilarious billhicks76 Jun 2014 #156

Damnit, I wish he had ended up the President. blackspade Jun 2014 #54

If he had, he might not be this candid. merrily Jun 2014 #79

True, but almost anything would have been better than 8 years of Shrub and Darth Cheney blackspade Jun 2014 #104

Too bad the NSA surveillance can't look at YouTube, else it might have found the lunatic shooters valerief Jun 2014 #56

This argument will lead to a literal 1984. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #60

Actually, my point was that the NSA surveillance which is supposed to protect us from terrorism valerief Jun 2014 #64

couldn't get two clues from Russian intelligence about the Tsarnaev brothers either. merrily Jun 2014 #81

All that snooping... JackRiddler Jun 2014 #97

Yes, the verdict is not the only thing the snooping accomplishes, by far. merrily Jun 2014 #108

We dont have telescreens in our homes yet--that we know of. merrily Jun 2014 #77

The Secret Service is searching for a sarcasm detector on twitter jakeXT Jun 2014 #69

The government could always ban humor. Then we'd all be teabaggers and valerief Jun 2014 #71

Rut roh. I'd better modify my default posting style. merrily Jun 2014 #83

LOL Amonester Jun 2014 #125

I tend to post sarcastically, but without the sarcasm smiley. merrily Jun 2014 #186

In retrospect, I should have used the "ironic" font when I posted this: Dragonfli Jun 2014 #95

Just a few and that name removed guy /nt jakeXT Jun 2014 #99

Everything was so exaggerated (I was going for obvious caricature) that I don't get Dragonfli Jun 2014 #102

Huge K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #59

Al was always a Paulbot anyway.... mike_c Jun 2014 #65

Kick and Rec! neverforget Jun 2014 #119

Thank you Al Gore. Al Gore gets it. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #127

you know, for all the "hillary is inevtable" threads DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #134

Gore is a year younger than Clinton. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #148

me too- in fact I wrote a lymeric about it in 2006 after his speech to the stlsaxman Jun 2014 #152

She Dropped 5 Points This Week billhicks76 Jun 2014 #157

Based on 2008, her dropping is also inevitable. merrily Jun 2014 #172

I Agree billhicks76 Jun 2014 #184

Biden seems as though he's dying to run. I hope some others step up as well. merrily Jun 2014 #185

Biden Would Lose Maybe billhicks76 Jun 2014 #191

Have you read Newsome's wiki? merrily Jun 2014 #192

No billhicks76 Jun 2014 #198

Ahhh...Ron Pelosi billhicks76 Jun 2014 #199

You can. You can write him in. merrily Jun 2014 #170

and the GOP would thank me DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #171

suit yourself. merrily Jun 2014 #173

actually, it is DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #174

You have actual choices. However, been taught-and reinforce for yourself--that you merrily Jun 2014 #177

oh how wrong you are DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #178

Then why do you post, pining for an "actual" choice? merrily Jun 2014 #179

because DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #180

Imagining something like that is nice, but I doubt it occurs. merrily Jun 2014 #181

Whistleblowers almost always have to break the law tavalon Jun 2014 #135

The Powers That Be make rules against exposure of themselves. Therefore, whistle-blowers have to rhett o rick Jun 2014 #163

Or maybe people who just disagree tavalon Jun 2014 #196

We all have to weigh the risks against the benefits. Having young children raises the risks rhett o rick Jun 2014 #197

But but... The NSA did not do anything illegal! Helen Borg Jun 2014 #137

Overclassification is illegal under US law. And, the Bill of Rights is still law. In theory, anyway merrily Jun 2014 #169

I was being sarcastic. The entire thing is unconstitutional Helen Borg Jun 2014 #190

Sorry I missed the sarcasm. I am prone to that, even though merrily Jun 2014 #193

Al probably read "Nowhere to Hide...Snowden..NSA" - Greenwald MzNov Jun 2014 #149

Delete one of these... having posting problems MzNov Jun 2014 #151

Al probably read "Nowhere to Hide...Snowden..NSA" - Greenwald MzNov Jun 2014 #150