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davidpdx

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6. Complicit for the pipeline or the pollution?
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:33 PM
Jun 2014

Yes, I think Canada is complicit for the pipeline. China is going to get oil whether or not the pipeline is built, so the pollution is their own problem. While China has taken steps to invest in clean energy, smog and dust pollute not only their country, but the countries around them.

Here in South Korea we get heavy doses of it in the spring and fall called "yellow dust" because it travels across the ocean with the sand from the desert and makes the sky look yellow. So does parts of Russia and Japan (although not as bad). Environmentally speaking, the pollution from China is killing people.

You might actually stop and take a look at the issue before jumping to conclusions about it being nationalism, because it isn't.


For anyone interested, the threat is bad enough that it is monitored for military personal for health reasons. The link provides the current yellow dust levels:

http://www.korea.amedd.army.mil/webapp/yellowSand/Default.asp

Yellow Dust:

Shanghai on April 3, 2007 recorded an air quality index of 500.[3] In the US, a 300 is considered "Hazardous" and anything over 200 is "Unhealthy". Desertification has intensified in China, as 1,740,000 km² of land is "dry", it disrupts the lives of 400 million people and causes direct economic losses of 54 billion yuan ($7 billion) a year, SFA figures show.[4] These figures probably vastly underestimate, as they just take into account direct effects, without including medical, pollution, and other secondary effects, as well as effects to neighboring nations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Dust

Harper doesn't give a shit what us peons think. canuckledragger Jun 2014 #1
you are correct - we are going to have to make the difference ourselves hopemountain Jun 2014 #3
That's the first step. delrem Jun 2014 #9
Remember Thespian2 Jun 2014 #15
A win for China davidpdx Jun 2014 #2
You don't think "the west" is complicit? delrem Jun 2014 #5
Complicit for the pipeline or the pollution? davidpdx Jun 2014 #6
oh wow. That's quite some distinction you make there. delrem Jun 2014 #7
China can get their oil from a number of different places davidpdx Jun 2014 #8
I'm not happy to say this, but I can't make any sense of your argument. delrem Jun 2014 #10
Possibly a reading comprehension problem davidpdx Jun 2014 #11
Yes, considering the OP, the topic, I think it's a reading comprehension problem. delrem Jun 2014 #13
When you learn to read get back to me davidpdx Jun 2014 #14
I have heard of that Doctor_J Jun 2014 #17
When Canada elected Stephen Harper with a majority gov't delrem Jun 2014 #4
K & R with much thanks for this thread. ancianita Jun 2014 #12
I was born, raised, and live in British Columbia LiberalLovinLug Jun 2014 #16
Well, at least the country getting the cash is also getting the oil spills jeff47 Jun 2014 #18
When a tanker goes down Joe Shlabotnik Jun 2014 #19
I'm saying it's slightly better than awful. That doesn't make it good. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2014 #20
2015 and counting.. thecytron Jun 2014 #21
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