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delrem

(9,688 posts)
10. I'm not happy to say this, but I can't make any sense of your argument.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:31 PM
Jun 2014

After all, the topic IS the Alberta tar-sands (bitumen), which has to be washed down with obnoxious chemical liquifiers to flow through a pipeline at all, and I say it's also about the Canadian voter who collectively elected Stephen Harper (Reform/Conservative Party) with his entire Reform Party history to a majority gov't, giving Stephen Harper the defining and deciding power.

You might have a hate on for China. OK, that's fair enough. But the primary destination for Alberta tar-sands raw product is through the USA. My bet is that the full US route will be built (it is already well under way), just as Northern Gateway will be built, because there are already $billions$ invested over several years and the project is totally established, politically.

I'm from B.C. and of an age where I can remember controversies w.r.t. "raw logs" being shipped across the Pacific, rather than being finished over here. The deciding factor, of course, was and is that it is much *easier* to pillage the natural resources of Canada, than it is to harvest them wisely, and that those who've taken this easier route use their money and political clout to make the pillaging even easier and more instantly profitable for themselves, the winners. It's the exact same scenario with Alberta's "dirty oil".

Harper doesn't give a shit what us peons think. canuckledragger Jun 2014 #1
you are correct - we are going to have to make the difference ourselves hopemountain Jun 2014 #3
That's the first step. delrem Jun 2014 #9
Remember Thespian2 Jun 2014 #15
A win for China davidpdx Jun 2014 #2
You don't think "the west" is complicit? delrem Jun 2014 #5
Complicit for the pipeline or the pollution? davidpdx Jun 2014 #6
oh wow. That's quite some distinction you make there. delrem Jun 2014 #7
China can get their oil from a number of different places davidpdx Jun 2014 #8
I'm not happy to say this, but I can't make any sense of your argument. delrem Jun 2014 #10
Possibly a reading comprehension problem davidpdx Jun 2014 #11
Yes, considering the OP, the topic, I think it's a reading comprehension problem. delrem Jun 2014 #13
When you learn to read get back to me davidpdx Jun 2014 #14
I have heard of that Doctor_J Jun 2014 #17
When Canada elected Stephen Harper with a majority gov't delrem Jun 2014 #4
K & R with much thanks for this thread. ancianita Jun 2014 #12
I was born, raised, and live in British Columbia LiberalLovinLug Jun 2014 #16
Well, at least the country getting the cash is also getting the oil spills jeff47 Jun 2014 #18
When a tanker goes down Joe Shlabotnik Jun 2014 #19
I'm saying it's slightly better than awful. That doesn't make it good. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2014 #20
2015 and counting.. thecytron Jun 2014 #21
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