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44. Just like 2A was supposed to make you safe.

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 05:03 AM

Jul 2014

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How's that working for you? 30,000 gun deaths a year, is that your idea of safe? 75,000 non fatal gun injuries a year, is that your idea of safe?

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States look to gun seizure law after mass killings [View all] DonViejo Jul 2014 OP

Gun rights advocates advocate for domestic terrorists, who are also a danger to themselves or others onehandle Jul 2014 #1

+++ 1,000,000 +++ If some asshole walks into a store or wherever RKP5637 Jul 2014 #3

That not only makes my day, It'll make my whole week alot better. Hoppy Jul 2014 #6

I know I shouldn't say this packman Jul 2014 #18

lmao, what an idiot wordpix Jul 2014 #62

if this were the only kind of victim, the matter would take care of itself in short order yurbud Jul 2014 #83

... it seems like trying to win at Whac-A-Mole. Guns are so pervasive, it seems one would RKP5637 Jul 2014 #2

That sounds like no knock warrants, OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2014 #4

They are free to give them up the easy way. mwrguy Jul 2014 #8

The hard way in this country, OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2014 #29

'Temporarily seized' is adequate. It's a safety measure like roping off a flooded street. freshwest Jul 2014 #5

"returned to use" - there is the problem DrDan Jul 2014 #9

so if the initial claim Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #13

Have a problem with due process? hack89 Jul 2014 #26

No problem with due process DrDan Jul 2014 #33

Just like 2A was supposed to make you safe. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #44

You mean 9000 gun homicides a year? hack89 Jul 2014 #47

We agree on lots of things Hack Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #49

Suicide is now homicide? hack89 Jul 2014 #50

Suicide is now homicide Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #54

Suicide is killing oneself, one being a human, hence the word "homicide" Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #55

Saying there were 30K homicides is disingenuous. hack89 Jul 2014 #56

So what laws would significantly reduce gun suicides? nt hack89 Jul 2014 #57

Apart from removing guns from the equation, I can't think of any. Can you? Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #68

Adequate mental health coverage hack89 Jul 2014 #69

That would be wonderful if it could be accomplished Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #75

Any ideas on how to "remove guns from the equation" hack89 Jul 2014 #76

Yep, it is a tough one. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #79

twisted logic but wrong Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #61

It may be typical of the anti-gun side, which I do not belong to. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #63

"It may be typical of the anti-gun side, which I do not belong to." friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #64

Meaning what precisely? Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #67

I doubted the veracity of your statement, and still do friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #70

What precisely do you think I'm being untruthful about? Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #74

yes, tell us what you're accusing him of lying about CreekDog Jul 2014 #81

He's not "antigun" as much as he is "anti people with guns" friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #84

not comfortable, but that at least would be true and not a lie Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #66

I've seen many court decisions where they are NEVER allowed to possess a firearm again, LOL. freshwest Jul 2014 #30

It does - thanks DrDan Jul 2014 #35

That is due process, which is fine hack89 Jul 2014 #36

Not only was Adam Lanza not thought to be a danger . . . toopers Jul 2014 #82

No, I suggest from the stories here, that his mother was on the verge of having him involuntarily freshwest Jul 2014 #85

I do not think this law would have applied in this case at all . . . toopers Jul 2014 #86

It's not ownership in that case. It's access. He would be removed from the guns. freshwest Jul 2014 #87

IT'S ABOUT TIME mwrguy Jul 2014 #7

I have no issue with this Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #10

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #11

Are you OK, you might just want to calm down Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #12

Guns are subcoscious symbolism for penis cosmicone Jul 2014 #16

for some it does seem to be Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #19

Especially on the RKBA side cosmicone Jul 2014 #40

you keep thinking that Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #41

The very fact that it bothers you so much is proof cosmicone Jul 2014 #59

No, it just means I call out the bullshit Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #60

The ratio of time spent on phallic imagery ... User_Friendly Jul 2014 #43

Well, for those who are obsessed with guns it is a subconscious fact. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #46

thanks Dr. Freud Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #52

Talk to someone who is anti-gun about it. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #58

And I am sure you have all the academic studies to prove it. hack89 Jul 2014 #53

LoL. NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #71

If you are a scientist cosmicone Jul 2014 #72

Honestly, I think the Penis jokes are projection. NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #73

99.9% of drugs don't cause deaths cosmicone Jul 2014 #77

I just consider it childish. NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #80

I don't think the sports car is necessarily... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #39

NuclearUnicorn is right: Some people shouldn't have guns. Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #22

yep nt Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #23

Two folks are ok with all of that? User_Friendly Jul 2014 #42

Here are the comments, classy is right Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #48

Control freaks tend to act out when they get frustrated... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #65

Speaking of seizures, I think Wayne LaPierre just had one Personal Damon Jul 2014 #14

Wayne Lapierre's head is so far up his ass cosmicone Jul 2014 #17

how long before the Hitler comparisons are rolled out? Doctor_J Jul 2014 #15

Only after due process is followed bluestateguy Jul 2014 #20

What if someone's behavior strongly indicates violence is imminent? Distant Quasar Jul 2014 #38

Follow due process upon probable cause with warrants Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #21

Of course we all know that three of the six Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #24

K&R! n/t billh58 Jul 2014 #25

Me too, and this story is appropriate for LBN. NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #32

Fortunately the police have a history of respecting civil liberties hack89 Jul 2014 #27

Coupled with NY's system of reporting potentially dangerous mental health patients hack89 Jul 2014 #28

cook county actively pursuing revoked foid card holders. mopinko Jul 2014 #31

The worst among these folks often self-identify, no? NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #34

that's the way he sees it. mopinko Jul 2014 #37

I think ''all sides'' should put down their arms. n/t DeSwiss Jul 2014 #45

They are still opposing it where a danger to self or society treestar Jul 2014 #51

I'm a gun control advocate, but this smells funny to me. Arkana Jul 2014 #78