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JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
5. What's "amazing" is your power of misinterpretation.
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 11:06 PM
Aug 2014

I'm not the least bit excited about this situation which is ugly all around. Your strawman has nothing to do with what I think.

See here:
Can we talk intelligently about Russia and Ukraine? http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025267434

What's even more amazing is your power to ignore how this started: with a hijacked rebellion in Kiev, a junta of bankers and fascists that chose to attack the ethnic Russian population, prompting the Crimea secession in the first place, and that then upped the ante by escalating into armed hostilities against the Donetsk separatists (and killing the civilian population of the eastern Ukraine generally!).

EU & US were hardly inactive - they shouldn't have been meddling in Ukraine before the Maidan movement, and they shouldn't be encouraging, arming, and advising the present government or accepting its propaganda about how all Russians in Ukraine are "terrorists." It's their empty suggestion that they're actually going to risk World War III on behalf of the Kiev junta that has encouraged the latter to keep pulling its increasingly stupid, murderous stunts. One hopes this insanity will not go on for much longer. It's obvious that Kiev is making no progress militarily and the draft may accelerate this government's disintegration.

Hope your comment proves correct Dems to Win Aug 2014 #1
This will not sit well with the vast number of folk who do not want their sons fighting for a regime Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #3
I'll second that hope that you're right. I see Petro ballyhoo Aug 2014 #2
Wow, amazing to see how many on DU are excited about an expansionist Russia. 7962 Aug 2014 #4
What's "amazing" is your power of misinterpretation. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #5
Obviously They HAVE been making progress otherwise Russia wouldnt be invading openly. 7962 Aug 2014 #9
Oy vey. "Russia invading openly." If Russia were invading openly, Kiev would VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #10
Yes, keep "hoping" for a more aggressive Russia. What threat to Europe has Ukraine been? 7962 Aug 2014 #11
I'm anti-fascist. Why do you support neo-Nazis (Right Sector) and fascists (Svoboda)? VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #12
Have you read the definition of fascism and applied to Putin. pampango Aug 2014 #15
Thank you for that. very well said. 7962 Aug 2014 #21
So you advocating for an aggressive US/EU response Union Scribe Aug 2014 #13
Back in 1989-90, IIRC, then Secretary of State James Baker promised his VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #17
Listen to Putins speech from today. If that doesnt tell you where we are, nothing will 7962 Aug 2014 #22
So the last ones drafted for the Army thought they would get out in October jakeXT Aug 2014 #6
Ukraine spends 1.1% of GDP on its military. Russia - 5%. Income inequalty in Ukraine is like Sweden. pampango Aug 2014 #7
Military budget and income inequality JackRiddler Aug 2014 #8
I read that Ukraine's president asked for a 50% increase in defense spending - to 1.7% of GDP. pampango Aug 2014 #14
Indirectly this illustrates how ridiculous... JackRiddler Aug 2014 #16
Ahh yes, the 'coup'. The world's first "I'm leaving because I want to" 'coup'. pampango Aug 2014 #18
Truly a selective history. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #19
As is yours. Though I appreciate you not defending the "I'm leaving because I want to" coup. pampango Aug 2014 #20
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