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pampango

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18. Ahh yes, the 'coup'. The world's first "I'm leaving because I want to" 'coup'.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:10 AM
Aug 2014

Yanukovich had just signed an agreement to stay in office and run the government until there were election in December. He still had control of the military and security services. And yet the coup mysteriously forced him to take his money and run to - Russia.

And it is, of course, just a coincidence that Russia is the country that has benefited most (except for some dead soldiers and more spending on the military) from the surprising departure of Mr. Yanukovich. Crimea is now reunited with Mother Russia. And soon more of eastern Ukraine will be 'reunited' whether they all want it or not.

And in your version of history the day after the 'coup' Ukraine's army started to attack the peaceful people of Eastern Ukraine. OK.

What the disparity in military spending also shows is that Russia has absolutely nothing to worry about in terms of a threat from Ukraine. Unfortunately, national governments that do have a history of spending more on the military than they did before the attack. I agree that military spending is "completely non-productive and inherently destabilizing" whether is in Ukraine or in Russia.

Hope your comment proves correct Dems to Win Aug 2014 #1
This will not sit well with the vast number of folk who do not want their sons fighting for a regime Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #3
I'll second that hope that you're right. I see Petro ballyhoo Aug 2014 #2
Wow, amazing to see how many on DU are excited about an expansionist Russia. 7962 Aug 2014 #4
What's "amazing" is your power of misinterpretation. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #5
Obviously They HAVE been making progress otherwise Russia wouldnt be invading openly. 7962 Aug 2014 #9
Oy vey. "Russia invading openly." If Russia were invading openly, Kiev would VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #10
Yes, keep "hoping" for a more aggressive Russia. What threat to Europe has Ukraine been? 7962 Aug 2014 #11
I'm anti-fascist. Why do you support neo-Nazis (Right Sector) and fascists (Svoboda)? VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #12
Have you read the definition of fascism and applied to Putin. pampango Aug 2014 #15
Thank you for that. very well said. 7962 Aug 2014 #21
So you advocating for an aggressive US/EU response Union Scribe Aug 2014 #13
Back in 1989-90, IIRC, then Secretary of State James Baker promised his VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #17
Listen to Putins speech from today. If that doesnt tell you where we are, nothing will 7962 Aug 2014 #22
So the last ones drafted for the Army thought they would get out in October jakeXT Aug 2014 #6
Ukraine spends 1.1% of GDP on its military. Russia - 5%. Income inequalty in Ukraine is like Sweden. pampango Aug 2014 #7
Military budget and income inequality JackRiddler Aug 2014 #8
I read that Ukraine's president asked for a 50% increase in defense spending - to 1.7% of GDP. pampango Aug 2014 #14
Indirectly this illustrates how ridiculous... JackRiddler Aug 2014 #16
Ahh yes, the 'coup'. The world's first "I'm leaving because I want to" 'coup'. pampango Aug 2014 #18
Truly a selective history. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #19
As is yours. Though I appreciate you not defending the "I'm leaving because I want to" coup. pampango Aug 2014 #20
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