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57. No, its very easy to inadvertantly slip up
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 10:12 PM
Oct 2014

I worked with HIV patients as a respiratory therapist when the disease was first beginning to be seen in the US. The patients were in full isolation. We had to gown, double glove and mask with shoe covers. When I would suction the poor souls who were on a ventilator, the mucous/blood would fly everywhere at times, depending on whether they coughed during suctioning. We also had to drain the ventilator condensation (full of sputum) several times per shift. My gown and gloves and sometime mask (standard surgical mask), became contaminated. Trying to get all the protective gear off without getting anything on your skin whatsoever was next to impossible. I would use hibiclens profusely after getting everything off. Of course back then we gowned and gloved to protect the patient with the comprised immune system and not for the protection of the staff. Things have changed the more that was learned about HIV and now face shields and full infectious disease precautions are in place for medical staff in ER/Surgery where HIV status may be unknown. Having said all of that, it is very possible that even when using the utmost care, you could still get some sort of contaminant on your skin. If you have a break in the skin, the ebola virus or any virus/disease for that matter(hepatitis etc) could enter your system.

So sad. 840high Oct 2014 #1
Courageous. nt ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #2
This is so heartbreaking to learn. Mnemosyne Oct 2014 #3
Why is it when a nurse contracts Ebola in Dallas it's all about how she broke protocol, but jtuck004 Oct 2014 #4
Maybe b/c it's different people who made the statements? Demit Oct 2014 #6
Wow, deep. Bye. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2014 #7
Haha! You wanted to whine about something, apparently, Demit Oct 2014 #14
LOL--I could be wrong, but I believe you were being told YOU librechik Oct 2014 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author sinkingfeeling Oct 2014 #8
Maybe it's because a Dallas hospital compared to the hospital conditions sinkingfeeling Oct 2014 #9
+1 000 000 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #20
K&R... Historic NY Oct 2014 #34
Wow! ReRe Oct 2014 #58
They follow far stricter protocols in Africa Warpy Oct 2014 #36
I think the odds come into play here. Let's see you have the meds in Africa treating hundreds LiberalArkie Oct 2014 #44
Doctors without borders have really good infection control. LisaL Oct 2014 #45
I think the CDC's protocols were left over from swine flu etc. LiberalArkie Oct 2014 #48
In one way, it would be worse here Warpy Oct 2014 #46
The suits retain lawyers and budget for lawsuits Warpy Oct 2014 #83
"Texas Ebola Cases Prompt CDC to Adopt Stricter Guidelines" deurbano Oct 2014 #70
I think you're right. BobbyBoring Oct 2014 #78
Doctors without borders have better PPE. LisaL Oct 2014 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author sinkingfeeling Oct 2014 #10
The article says they're staff...not necessarily doctors. OnlinePoker Oct 2014 #13
The difference QuestionAlways Oct 2014 #15
If it had, there would be a lot more people in Texas with it. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #18
That's another possibility, thank you. Also, the people who are making the most $$$ from this aren't jtuck004 Oct 2014 #27
is this the latest Fox News talking point? Skittles Oct 2014 #35
It's not an upper respiratory disease Warpy Oct 2014 #37
Or, they don't want to admit that the protocol was incorrect or not communicated. Hoppy Oct 2014 #38
And soon Herr Obama will carpet bomb us with Ebola infected towels. Arkana Oct 2014 #81
Not being critical of anyone QuestionAlways Oct 2014 #82
Doctors Without Borders don't have access to the same kind of facilities and money as US hospitals. Voice for Peace Oct 2014 #17
maybe it's because whatthehey Oct 2014 #21
Maybe because it's easier to beat up on workers, and women. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2014 #22
no evidence she broke protocol blackcrowflies Oct 2014 #40
No, its very easy to inadvertantly slip up Windy Oct 2014 #57
I call the nurse a hero too IronLionZion Oct 2014 #43
Doctors without Borders is a wonderful organization. Paper Roses Oct 2014 #5
My brother is a member and been on missions. Initech Oct 2014 #12
+1000 nt QuestionAlways Oct 2014 #24
They Are a Dedicated and Courageous Group of People Leith Oct 2014 #62
Too bad they aren't getting Zuckerburg's $25 million donation. Dollface Oct 2014 #11
Thank you. Wait Wut Oct 2014 #30
Good call IronLionZion Oct 2014 #47
Thank you, thank you, thank you... ReRe Oct 2014 #59
It's all Frieden and CDC's fault. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #16
Frieden and the CDC will be blaming them for "not following protocol". former9thward Oct 2014 #23
I doubt it. They, unlike you, seem to be aware of the impossible working conditions kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #28
He was quick to blame the nurse in Dallas. former9thward Oct 2014 #32
Well, you start by using proper PPE and then following CDC protocols. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #61
As I said I want to see Frieden treat an ebola patient. former9thward Oct 2014 #72
Dr. Frieden: "Looking back, we say we should have put an even larger team on the ground immediately" pnwmom Oct 2014 #60
Really really really hoping the vaccine trials show it to be safe AND effective. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #19
Hopefully the blood transfusions will be found to work. I know that they need more money to jwirr Oct 2014 #25
so why can't any of the US billionaires help them out? RussBLib Oct 2014 #26
Good point.. n/t Paper Roses Oct 2014 #29
Because Doctor's Without Borders... Wait Wut Oct 2014 #31
they'll help... BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2014 #33
Tragic genxlib Oct 2014 #39
When the ice bucket thing MountainMama Oct 2014 #41
Greetings from Puerto Rico Yve55 Oct 2014 #49
Welcome To DU! rocktivity Oct 2014 #50
Thanks!! Yve55 Oct 2014 #56
Bienvenida/o El Shaman Oct 2014 #52
Muchas Gracias Yve55 Oct 2014 #55
At this rate El Shaman Oct 2014 #51
There's more money to be made curing the erectile dysfunction of Wall Street CEOs. eom whereisjustice Oct 2014 #53
Even though Ebola is not airborne it is so easy to pass in poor conditions LynneSin Oct 2014 #54
Viruses MUTATE.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2014 #64
I agree about our healthcare system in the states LynneSin Oct 2014 #67
Agree with ALL of your points made.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2014 #68
When I say shut down - it can't be USA only LynneSin Oct 2014 #75
Fair Point! LovingA2andMI Oct 2014 #79
Yes they mutate, but they do not do so as to completely change the mode of transmission Marrah_G Oct 2014 #74
That's not True.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2014 #77
It has never happened and is unlikely to ever happen. Marrah_G Oct 2014 #80
Shit. aquart Oct 2014 #63
Exactly! LovingA2andMI Oct 2014 #66
Government budgets have been slashed Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #65
They (The Rich) will contract vendors to build isolation units immediately LovingA2andMI Oct 2014 #71
These people are Heros, they're always on the 'front lines'. Sunlei Oct 2014 #73
Kickin' Faux pas Oct 2014 #76
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