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In reply to the discussion: What Really Happened With the DNC’s “Datagate”? (from Jacobin) [View all]passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)19. It really wasn't that big of a deal
The expected documentation under these circumstances would be a screenshot of the score filtering interface showing Clinton scores.
A reference to a list or two created using the scores might be helpful, but once it has been established that one is in fact able to filter, additional lists are not in any way useful to the engineer debugging. If the thinking was that the score access bug had only affected certain states, surely after the third or fourth attempt it would be clear this was not the case.
And this is why Sanders fired Uretsky. He was not just looking for proof of vulnerability...he got carried away and started looking for stats that would help the Sanders campaign in who not to waste time on, or who to waste time on. But these kind of stats are only "somewhat" important, to my mind. Is it possible it helped them pinpoint some voters who could be swayed to vote for Bernie? Of course, but maybe they would have been swayed anyway, just by watching ads on TV.
So what was Uretsky thinking? He most likely ran the queries to sound out the Clinton campaigns estimation of its chances in upcoming races. With every query they ran, Sanders staff learned something about what the Clinton campaign thought the distribution of support among voters in early primary states looked like.
So really, not much more than looking at polls to see which way the wind is blowing.
Perhaps Uretsky really did begin searching with the intent of assessing the scope of the breach and his curiosity simply got the better of him. In doing this, he touched a very sensitive nerve indeed. But his actions were less comparable to copying sheets from the opposing teams playbook than opportunistic eavesdropping on its pre-game chatter.
Exactly,,,but that doesn't fit in the DNC or Hillary agenda where thy need to make Sander's a thief so that Hillary is more electable. It was a Benghazi...that's all.
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He mentioned they could not even get that detail without being able to download the data
newthinking
Dec 2015
#17
Nonsense. The strategy and thinking of the Clinton GOTV efforts is probably pretty obvious
JDPriestly
Dec 2015
#36
Sanders spins the facts when he says campaign did not 'go out and take' Clinton data
Gothmog
Dec 2015
#55
I think it is exactly like he said. He wanted to be able to prove that the breach had occurred.
LiberalArkie
Dec 2015
#6
I agree. We are talking about computer nerds here. They will mess with data just to see
JDPriestly
Dec 2015
#32
The author, formerly and admin of the software, said that neither campaign could get far without
newthinking
Dec 2015
#18
The breach is the fault of NGP Van. They admit there was a bug in a release on the website.
JDPriestly
Dec 2015
#49
The NGP Van was nkt fired by Sanders. Who forced Sanders staff members to look at Clinton's
Thinkingabout
Dec 2015
#50
The staff did not breach the data. They were given permission to search and view the data
JDPriestly
Dec 2015
#51
This basically shows the analysis by myself and another IT admin was correct. This is POLITICAL not
newthinking
Dec 2015
#16
I tend to believe Uretsky's statement about his intent to document the extent of the breach
JDPriestly
Dec 2015
#29
"It's political not substantive." I agree with the political part. That was the point.
pnwmom
Dec 2015
#27
Maybe he discovered something so fascinating that he threw caution to the wind.
JDPriestly
Dec 2015
#30
Bad metaphor. Benghazi was where Libyan weapons were stored and from where weapons
JDPriestly
Dec 2015
#26
Jacobin tries to determine based on the searches what the intent of Bernie's Sanders
JDPriestly
Dec 2015
#24
I have the opposite feeling; whenever good points are raised by those qualified to say so, they run.
JonLeibowitz
Dec 2015
#54
What truely amazes me here is that any campaign is storing sensitive data under the control
RichVRichV
Dec 2015
#44