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In reply to the discussion: A pessimistic prediction from Joy-Ann Reid. Read it anyway: she could well be right about everything [View all]DirkGently
(12,151 posts)I responded to that with the fact that it's simply not true. Where you get the temerity to turn that into an accusation that people who don't think Clinton was a great choice are happy about Trump is a mystery and you ought to walk that back a few yards.
Dems you don't agree with didn't make Hillary lose. SHE JUST LOST.
I have always thought misogyny played into the general conservative hatred of Hillary Clinton. But they have had 25 years to turn an obvious leading Democratic contender, with publicly stated Presidential ambitions, into a bogeyman. They could have done that to anyone, and would have tried. Her negatives were a known problem, and however much of that was unfair, it should not have been ignored.
But there was no massive outpouring of white or male votes for Trump. Most states lost turnout, and Trump got fewer votes than either McCain or Romney. The data indicates she lost due to a massive decrease in black and Latino votes; something you cannot blame on liberal Dems or Jill Stein or Comey or anything else.
She did not drive the numbers we needed to win. We needed a better candidate.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/behind-trumps-victory-divisions-by-race-gender-education/
Clinton was a step in the wrong direction; she lost, and we need to find someone better, and yes-that-means-more-liberal next time. That's only an opinion of course, but SHE lost. Bernie didn't lose it for her; the Greens didn't lose it for her, and I'm sorry, but the numbers don't show that racism or sexism lost it for her either.