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delisen

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23. Those losses came as a result of passing healthcare and not investing in the party for
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 05:10 PM
Jul 2017

8 years, not fighting voter suppression. not because "centrists" were running. In 2016 the Russian factor was added and tipped the scales.

Do you think Russ Feingold was too centrist?

Are you saying that Obama, as party head should have built up the party during the past eight years? I know he has mentioned some regret the losses.

Do you think Sanders and other candidates should build up the party instead of their own organizations?

I think that Obama made a smart move on passing healthcare-It ended the debate between whether to secure healthcare for the non-medicaid, non-medicare population or leave them uncovered or badly covered.

The debate is now between the ACA and universal coverage. and universal will win. People got a taste for what they were missing and don't want to give it up---they want more.

I don't want to insult Sanders, or his billionaire backer but the analysis is not impressive.

The term Progressive is being misused too much-sort of like those evangelicals who claim to be the only Christians and rejected Catholics and protestant denominations as not Christian.

This!! Plain as the nose on your face. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #1
Whose Face? Me. Jul 2017 #9
Huge donors are cool now? I thought they were evil? bettyellen Jul 2017 #2
Only if Hillary and Obama does it. *sarcasm* n/t jrthin Jul 2017 #6
Exactly! I was just coming to say that when I saw your post. R B Garr Jul 2017 #10
My friend who catapulted the Russian propaganda now says "all fair" and yet he talks about trust? bettyellen Jul 2017 #11
yeah, the mission creep has started. That's what happens to propaganda. R B Garr Jul 2017 #12
When he started with the Guccifer /Wiki shit, I really lost it. bettyellen Jul 2017 #14
Yes, they totally outed themselves. If a woman is ambitious, she can be questioned R B Garr Jul 2017 #15
I am so confused lunasun Jul 2017 #16
Seems like there was a ton of "fake concern" or now it's some bettyellen Jul 2017 #17
good analogy lunasun Jul 2017 #18
My fave: she's going to start a war w Russia. Source: Russia! LOL bettyellen Jul 2017 #22
Get with the program, BlueMTexpat Jul 2017 #39
Well if you aren't going to listen to Bernie, or his supporters like me... killbotfactory Jul 2017 #41
What?!? Here all along I thought warring factions was the way to go. It's what we've always done. nt Binkie The Clown Jul 2017 #3
The NY Daily News interview that many conviently forget indicate Bernie is not the messiah still_one Jul 2017 #4
Nor A Democrat Me. Jul 2017 #8
filed under no shit. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #5
Those losses came as a result of passing healthcare and not investing in the party for delisen Jul 2017 #23
I agree with Steyer cilla4progress Jul 2017 #7
Yes. elleng Jul 2017 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Maven Jul 2017 #13
"Steyer, a California hedge fund billionaire"?? Really? George II Jul 2017 #19
Bernie's platform contained suggestions murielm99 Jul 2017 #20
Absolutely. Single payer IS the gold standard. oxbow Jul 2017 #21
If only! elleng Jul 2017 #35
Once again I must ask: Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #24
They were lobbying for the public option, which Lieberman killed. Nt killbotfactory Jul 2017 #26
They were listening to Rahm Emmanuel, et al, tell them they weren't needed or wanted. mikehiggins Jul 2017 #28
Bernie still needs to join the party for that to have a snowball's chance of happening... Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #25
So Berners lurve them some hedge fund billionaires now? Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #27
sorry but... chillfactor Jul 2017 #29
I thought Bernie's "people" ... NanceGreggs Jul 2017 #30
There is an absolute, unspoken war between corporate interests and the American people, elleng Jul 2017 #34
""It would be hypocritical of me ... NanceGreggs Jul 2017 #37
Oh, the irony...or should I say, the hypocrisy... lunamagica Jul 2017 #31
DU Has Become Bernie Bashing Central SoCalMusicLover Jul 2017 #32
There is an absolute, unspoken war between corporate interests and the American people, elleng Jul 2017 #33
Post removed Post removed Jul 2017 #38
the billionaire donor said that, not Bernie. nt killbotfactory Jul 2017 #40
He is missing the boat. (snark follows.) JayhawkSD Jul 2017 #42
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