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Proud Liberal Dem

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18. How exactly does he propose to take politics out of........politics?
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 03:03 PM
Jul 2017

And why does he seem to think that Democrats are the ones "too focused" drama and gamesmanship? Gah. Does he not know what Democrats stand for and/or what the Democrats have done whenever they've been in power? Does he even remember about the ACA that Democrats passed- at a horrific political price- back in 2010? Does he remember how President Obama helped stabilize a deteriorating economy and presided over a fairly peaceful and prosperous 8 years for everybody in our country? Was it as good as it could have been? Maybe not but he, like Clinton before him, left the place in a MUCH better place than where he found it. Is he factoring in Republican obstructionism? I hate Democratic naysayers whom seem to completely ignore all of the evidence in front of their faces that the Democratic Party is doing it's best to help people when they have the power to do so, but are too often undercut by the Republicans and their constant legal and legislative maneuvering. What the hell does he suggest Democrats do to get their message out? Hit voters over the head by a 2 X 4 to get them to pay attention to them?

Yes kcdoug1 Jul 2017 #1
'For instance, he talked about the smugness of upper-middle-class Democrats elleng Jul 2017 #2
Can we please drop the fucking notion Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #12
I do not think this is or was Pete Buttigieg's 'notion,' ever. elleng Jul 2017 #13
Fuck that shit... Rural/conservative whites have no issues Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #15
'Fuck that shit... Rural/conservative whites have no issues.' elleng Jul 2017 #16
So please tell me what am I, as a black male Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #17
Continue as ever, I don't care what you do. elleng Jul 2017 #19
Well that was anticlimactic Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #20
'Our party exists to support people going about their daily lives. Our party was founded to help elleng Jul 2017 #24
Yes, and I'm asking for specifics Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #25
I do not thnk you as a black male should ceded anything nor yield any ground. PufPuf23 Jul 2017 #26
Thanks for constructive suggestions, PufPuf23. elleng Jul 2017 #27
Thank you Elleng. PufPuf23 Jul 2017 #29
Yes indeed. elleng Jul 2017 #32
Revival of "Latte Liberal" smear, recycled Bush-era GOP "Dems have no ideas!1!1" emulatorloo Jul 2017 #33
Bullshit. You cannot say that Democratic voters vote against their economic self-interest, muriel_volestrangler Jul 2017 #45
Some seem to get it. Why don't the rest? George Eliot Jul 2017 #3
You are surrounded by Liberals and Progressives here. So stop the "they'd rather have Trump" BS emulatorloo Jul 2017 #34
Why take it personally? The OP is talking about the establishment - DNC and elites within it. George Eliot Jul 2017 #46
"The (DNC) establishment elite absolutely would rather see a Trump than a Sanders". emulatorloo Jul 2017 #47
:) George Eliot Jul 2017 #48
You're welcome to your opinion too. But not your own set of 'facts.' emulatorloo Jul 2017 #49
Those who voted against Sanders did so because they prefer Trump(R)? Seriously, what the fuck is Squinch Jul 2017 #37
THIS Is The Guy To WATCH in 2020.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2017 #4
I supported him as Chair, elleng Jul 2017 #9
LOL. Why doesn't the party select representatives from RED states? Because then the pnwmom Jul 2017 #5
You're not allowed to mention that in a Dem-bashing thread... Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #11
Yup Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2017 #23
Thank you. Democrats are running a pretty liberal candidate here in Utah for Chaffetz' seat. Drunken Irishman Jul 2017 #28
But being part of the Blue Dog caucus meant that he helped give the Dems a majority when we had it. pnwmom Jul 2017 #43
The party is lost, and wandering in the woods. joet67 Jul 2017 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author ymetca Jul 2017 #56
The anti-left, anti-Independents, many times antl-rural Democrats, like some on this site democrank Jul 2017 #7
Right. :-( Seeing 'snark' here elleng Jul 2017 #8
not snark, just pure anger in my case... Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #22
Of course, that "1000 SEATS!!!!1111111!!" Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #14
+1000 Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2017 #21
We lost seats because Dems stood up and voted for the ACA and were then demonized by the Kock Brothe emulatorloo Jul 2017 #30
Demonized not just by the Koch brothers, but also by other Democrats. Squinch Jul 2017 #36
Yes indeed emulatorloo Jul 2017 #38
I feel like almost all politics has lost it's soul. LakeArenal Jul 2017 #10
Revisionist history. Dems had a razor thin margin in the Senate and that included traitor Lieberman emulatorloo Jul 2017 #39
Why revisionist? Your last sentance is what I said. LakeArenal Jul 2017 #40
My mistake then. emulatorloo Jul 2017 #41
How exactly does he propose to take politics out of........politics? Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2017 #18
Like I said, just vague truisms and navel-gazing... Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #42
Why are we recycling the BushBot "Democrats have no ideas!!!" meme? emulatorloo Jul 2017 #31
Democrats who don't understand the need for party discipline are what is most wrong with Democrats. Squinch Jul 2017 #35
So tell me more about this lack of ideas and messaging... Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #44
RIght now on DU, this poster and this nonsense attacking the D party stands but If Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #52
Here's the fundamental problem: Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #50
People believe the D party doesnt stand for anything but to oppose shithead because Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #51
I think you're misstating the problem, elleng Jul 2017 #58
Agreed, but recycling and deploying old GOP talking points against Dems does not move us forward. emulatorloo Jul 2017 #60
It is designed to harm the party. I know what is happening and who is doing it, Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #61
"a party that is too focused on the day to day drama and gamesmanship in Washington" vi5 Jul 2017 #53
But as cynical as it sounds, you DO need to Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #54
Not cable news.... vi5 Jul 2017 #59
There are two worlds out there. Eko Jul 2017 #55
What is being lost in this thread and following discussion is one fact. Most Democrats are moderates tonyt53 Jul 2017 #57
Too many bankers and not enough labor unions. alarimer Jul 2017 #62
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