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BlueMTexpat

(15,368 posts)
39. There is enough blame to go around.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 05:13 AM
Sep 2020

Yes, Clinton should have known better and bears most of it. There is no question whatsoever about that.

But Hillary forgave him and he seems to have reformed since then after treatment for sex addiction. But his actions enabled Newt and his crazies to do their worst. Those actions hurt Gore's candidacy in 2000 and ALSO hurt Hillary's in 2016, in part because they mitigated the effect of tRump's sexual assaults.

BUT Monica was NOT merely a "starry-eyed intern." She had already had a five-year affair with one of her married high-school teachers before heading to DC. There were also reports from her contemporaries and colleagues that she had set her sights on Clinton once she became an intern.

Her mother seems to have had grand sexual aspirations, so Monica's own aspirations didn't just come out of nowhere.

Her biggest mistake was in trusting Linda Tripp. Even then, Monica only testified because she was forced to by RW GOPers.

I admire her for trying to hold out for as long as she could, given their intimidation tactics, which should have been deemed to be illegal. After all, the actions were consensual and she was over 21 at the time.

This should NEVER have been an impeachment issue, but for Clinton's lying about it. Even that should NOT have risen to the level of impeachment. But we're talking about GOPers, for whom no action by a Dem is off the table. The same or worse actions by GOPers, e.g., Newt himself and tRump, are practically qualifications for a GOPer.

But no, I do not consider her an admirable person. And I never will. But I wish her well nonetheless.

She did tremendous damage to our party and to liberal politics. Laelth Sep 2020 #1
Sorry, not going to entertain that. demmiblue Sep 2020 #2
That seems extreme to me. They really don't need your forgiveness. LakeArenal Sep 2020 #6
That's good because neither is going to get it. n/t Laelth Sep 2020 #8
Considering everything it was a nonissue. JI7 Sep 2020 #7
nah, if it hadn't have been her qazplm135 Sep 2020 #11
learning to forgive ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #17
+1 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2020 #19
Remember Newt Gingrich & Pals? They were the actual criminals. Real criminals. Hekate Sep 2020 #27
This! happy feet Sep 2020 #29
Sorry, Bill Clinton was FAR more responsible. SharonAnn Sep 2020 #36
I get where you are coming BlueMTexpat Sep 2020 #40
F you ML Jack-o-Lantern Sep 2020 #3
Lol... triggered! demmiblue Sep 2020 #4
💯 live love laugh Sep 2020 #37
After listening to Monica Lewinsky in recent years I feel like she had no regrets JI7 Sep 2020 #5
I guess people have different takes on the matter, especially women. demmiblue Sep 2020 #9
I am a woman JI7 Sep 2020 #10
Well, woman across the board have very different opinions in this matter. demmiblue Sep 2020 #12
I just listen to Monica herself and see no regrets from her JI7 Sep 2020 #14
Yeah, because decades later you need to hear her regrets. WTF. demmiblue Sep 2020 #15
uh, she did a show on this just recently JI7 Sep 2020 #16
moved on? Skittles Sep 2020 #31
Nope... she is a strong, resilient woman. demmiblue Sep 2020 #33
LOL Skittles Sep 2020 #34
Give yourself a cookie. demmiblue Sep 2020 #35
good her. i mean that. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #18
You're so obvious. n/t demmiblue Sep 2020 #20
what is that supposed to mean? ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #22
Oh my goodness, I have no idea! demmiblue Sep 2020 #23
Post removed Post removed Sep 2020 #24
Oh... demmiblue Sep 2020 #25
Her mother sat by her bedside night after night, fearing Monica might kill herself. Hekate Sep 2020 #28
enough with the YOUNG thing Skittles Sep 2020 #32
And the military has very strong rules against an officer having sex with an enlisted person. marie999 Sep 2020 #42
Just putting this here (her TED talk): demmiblue Sep 2020 #13
Good to see Monica has found her Voice. Aussie105 Sep 2020 #21
Post removed Post removed Sep 2020 #38
She caused her own hell. She stalked the President, gave no fucks for his wife nor daughter. Budi Sep 2020 #26
I blame Bill, not a starry-eyed, 22-year old intern. nt Earthshine2 Sep 2020 #30
There is enough blame to go around. BlueMTexpat Sep 2020 #39
Interesting info. Some I did not know. Okay blame ... 99% Bill 1% Monica Earthshine2 Sep 2020 #41
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