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marie999

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25. I used Statista for Medicare 61 million and Medicaid 75 million, and the VA Healthcare 9 million.
Wed Dec 2, 2020, 11:01 AM
Dec 2020

Yes, some are probably on 2, but not 3. If a veteran is in the VA healthcare system they may also be on Medicare, but would not need Medicaid. The free clinics and hospital are partially paid for by the county and the free clinics are partially staffed by volunteers. My VA doctor retired and is now volunteering at a free clinic. I found that 12 million people are on both Medicare and Medicaid so the total would be 133 million or 40% of the population. Also, 2.2 million veterans and their families are on VA Tricare. It is hard if not impossible to find out how much single-payer would cost the government since all groups seem to use different numbers to come up with the total. Leaving out the fringe groups it seems to be between savings of $600 billion or an extra cost of $500 billion. I am not an economist but it seems that much of the savings comes from cutting out the middleman, insurance companies. I don't know what companies would do if they did not have to pay insurance companies. Since they are not altruistic, I don't know how many would increase what they pay employees. It is my personal belief that it can be done without raising taxes on the lower or middle class and not a large increase on the upper class.

No wonder 'some' don't like her. sheshe2 Dec 2020 #1
I read the article and didn't find the cost,just that it was less than m4a questionseverything Dec 2020 #3
I can look for it. The article is an overview of her visions & policies... Budi Dec 2020 #7
In general, allowing the private insurance industry to oporate questionseverything Dec 2020 #11
+++++++++++ not fooled Dec 2020 #14
Currently the "private insurance industry" administrates a good part of Medicare.... George II Dec 2020 #17
In nearly all countries with universal health care, private insurance companies play a part. ehrnst Dec 2020 #19
Yup. This is what NT's been doing while others were campaigning for the Primary & General Budi Dec 2020 #4
Thank you, Budi, for Neera Tandan's Cha Dec 2020 #2
Yup. She's been dedicated to fine tuning the Health Care issue for a long time. Budi Dec 2020 #5
Great! I just know & like her Cha Dec 2020 #6
Me too. Her bio is quite a story as well. Budi Dec 2020 #8
"Another stong smart woman of the Biden/Harris family." Cha Dec 2020 #12
Repugs are already saying, gab13by13 Dec 2020 #9
Of course they are & they come with a whole list of reasons which actually make them sound like the Budi Dec 2020 #10
No wonder they're scared shitless of her. LudwigPastorius Dec 2020 #13
K & R SunSeeker Dec 2020 #15
K&R brer cat Dec 2020 #16
K&R Gothmog Dec 2020 #18
There are 145 million people on Medicare, Medicaid, or VA healthcare. marie999 Dec 2020 #20
That's what the ACA, when fully implemented has always had as a goal. ehrnst Dec 2020 #21
We have a county program in Onslow County, NC. I know people who can't get Medicaid marie999 Dec 2020 #22
So you're talking about local free clinics, and individual hospital charity, not a system. ehrnst Dec 2020 #24
I used Statista for Medicare 61 million and Medicaid 75 million, and the VA Healthcare 9 million. marie999 Dec 2020 #25
I know four people who are on all three. ehrnst Dec 2020 #26
K&R betsuni Dec 2020 #23
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