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Martin68

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21. I bow to your experience, education ad skill set. While I don't have a degree in language, I
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 06:55 PM
Apr 2021

taught English as a second language in Japan for 21 years, and did a quite a bit of research on linguistics and the acquisition of language in children. While Chomsky is highly respected, there are other views that I think answer questions that Chomsky's don't. Being immersed in the field as you are often requires coming down on one or another particular theory. I don't think it is quite as settled as you suggest. I agree that there must be a genetic, "innate" component of language in the brain, but exactly how it functions and what actual parts of the brain perform which functions of that innate ability is not known.

I think we too often fall into the trap of assuming that because things are the way they are, there could not be any other way for them to be. Language wouldn't necessarily have to be verbal in an alien species. It could be based on frequencies of light, or something chemical like smell and taste. Would the deep structure of such a language have to resemble ours? At any rate, I don't claim to have any answers, I just try to keep my mind open to new possibilities because I don't think we've fully plumbed the depths of language and the forms that life can take.

There is evidence that some birds can communicate pictures. PurgedVoter Apr 2021 #1
I think it's interesting that we worry about communicating with aliens but we cant communicate mitch96 Apr 2021 #2
I was thinking the same thing. Why not practice with the animals who live on our own planet. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #6
Absolutely! We need to get much better at deciphering animal languages. lagomorph777 Apr 2021 #13
Yes deciphering ancient Earth texts would also be a great way to figure out alien languages. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #14
As far as we know, animals do not have "languages." Communicating with sound is not necessarily Martin68 Apr 2021 #15
We don't really know. The study of animal language has been based upon human language. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #16
Chomsky's theories are only one approach to language analysis. If he is right, though, then Martin68 Apr 2021 #17
It is hard to argue with Chomsky's claim that language is innate, wired-in, a Darwinian adaptation. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #19
I bow to your experience, education ad skill set. While I don't have a degree in language, I Martin68 Apr 2021 #21
You seem very knowledgeable about linguistics and Chomsky's work. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #22
Thanks for the thoughtful and understanding reply. Martin68 Apr 2021 #23
Interesting. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #24
Reminds me of a humorous Kurt Vonnegut story, the aliens communicated by farting and tap dancing Walleye Apr 2021 #3
There are ancient languages we can't decipher exboyfil Apr 2021 #4
"ancient languages we can't decipher".. I wonder how much different this is than decoding mitch96 Apr 2021 #10
In a sense proves the point exboyfil Apr 2021 #11
" Codebreaking requires a Rosetta stone of sorts" mitch96 Apr 2021 #12
Yes, it would be a very interesting field of research! Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #5
Forget aliens and other species on this planet. We, as humans, have difficulty communicating with niyad Apr 2021 #7
Look for a preponderance of 'e's. keithbvadu2 Apr 2021 #8
Well, so far we haven't cracked the codes of dogs barking or cats screeching at each other... TreasonousBastard Apr 2021 #9
We are working on it. Marcuse Apr 2021 #20
Scientists have always assumed communication with intelligent alien life would start with Martin68 Apr 2021 #18
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