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cab67

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5. This is consistent with my earlier statement.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 08:12 AM
Sep 2014

There is no causal link between vaccines and autism. This has been demonstrated repeatedly. The nature of his claim - that a correlation between vaccines and autism existed in a subset of the population his group studied - would, at this point, be like the claim that mean annual temperatures have been anomalously low in the eastern United States over the past couple of years. It may be true, but doesn't really outweigh the massive amount of evidence that global mean annual temperatures have shown a marked upward trajectory over a longer period of time.

So I stand by my claim that the vaccine-autism link is on the same "scientific" level as global warming denialism, the view that HIV doesn't cause AIDS, creationism, and using hypnosis to recover memories of alien abduction. One can find people with advanced degrees, and backgrounds at prestigious institutions, who support all of them. They, too, may claim that the evidence supporting their side has been censored from the peer-reviewed literature by a cabal of academic purists uninterested in looking controversy in the eye, or by groups with a big stake in the outcome (e.g. companies making anti-retroviral drugs). Claims of censorship or conspiracy in the scientific community are always going to set off the bullshit detector of anyone who knows how scientists actually work. Extraordinary claims needing extraordinary evidence and all that.

If, as Dr. Thompson claims, evidence for such a link was omitted from an earlier paper, it should be published. I can't evaluate his claim (or re-evaluate my own view, which is based on what's been discovered by published research over the past couple of decades) otherwise.

What bullshit. cab67 Sep 2014 #1
What's your background? Here's a statement by the CDC scientist in the video. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #2
Beyond my basic literacy and ability to read the peer-reviewed literature, cab67 Sep 2014 #3
This post sounds like a different person wrote it, as contrasted with the earlier remarks. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #4
This is consistent with my earlier statement. cab67 Sep 2014 #5
Familiar with this? I apologize for the graphics in the video, maybe just close your eyes and listen proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author truedelphi Sep 2014 #7
The formaldehyde issue is a non-issue. cab67 Sep 2014 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author truedelphi Sep 2014 #9
You're using a straw man argument cab67 Sep 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author truedelphi Sep 2014 #12
You did mischaracterize my argument. cab67 Sep 2014 #14
Well, then we're done, as it was proven that mercury and formaldehyde were undesirable in terms of truedelphi Sep 2014 #15
This thread is about statements by whistleblower Dr. William Thompson on his own CDC research career proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #10
And the methodology that is used here is exactly as that described in truedelphi Sep 2014 #13
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This message was self-deleted by its author truedelphi Sep 2014 #19
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IMO, 'supportive' posts containing multiple incorrect and unsourced statements are counterproductive proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #21
RE: "It would be interesting to see how they match up with everything else..." proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #22
You might be interested in this summary. proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #23
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