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RainDog

(28,784 posts)
38. I can't quit you, TD babe
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:16 PM
Mar 2014

I still want to guess where it will end up - and these pictures lead me to revise my ideas.

So...this is a buddy cop drama. Two men, in middle age, who find that life has taken its toll - sometimes because of their own choices and sometimes because of acts they could not control. The final episode will allow them to make one last chance to pay their debt to society - which one of them thinks shouldn't exist, but whatevs.

The eternal recurrence that Nietzsche saw as a horrible truth is this: White male buddy cops. (heh - the meta narrative of American manifest destiny, and so on, infinity, I know you are but what am I, etc.)



I could imagine the black stars woman and the pharmacy killer guy as students at that school - the pharmacy killer guy would know about the cult because of his experience at the school - it didn't need to be some big criminal conspiracy for him to know - he knew Rust was one of the investigators who got LeDoux.

So, maybe the pharmacy guy is the last kid on the facing left back row of Light of the Way - and the guy next to him is Ginger (lol), and the woman with the stars is the brunette holding the grade sign for the picture.

But the point, really, is the cycle of abuse, crime, and violence that was recreated each time someone from that school, or the others, was a victim. The victim becomes the victimizer.

Errol, it seems, is the child of a girl who was raped by Tuttle long ago, punished with torture, and he, too recreates the cycle of abuse, procuring virgins, and whatever else he did and does.

But how will the show end? Don't know. My version goes like this -

Maggie brings one of Audrey's paintings to Marty's office as a peace offering (and to check on what he and Rust are doing.) Rust sees the cult symbols in the painting and Marty and Maggie recall Audrey's drawings and the doll play like the cult video.

That's when Marty realizes the abuse was shown to him but, instead of dealing with his daughter's situation, he tossed the notebook aside, Audrey grew up, and he called her a member of the varsity slut squad - again, perpetuating the cycle of abuse. The eternal return of society policing or abusing female sexuality - and sometimes at the same time.

But the show ended with Rust and Marty in the boat with Gervais. How do they get from there to the above? Maybe they don't. Maybe that's how the show ends. Nah, doubt it. I guess I want that situation to be explained to the viewer... and to Marty.

Three more days to go till we find out how the story ends. Can't wait. but I have to. But if we really had some sort of eternal recurrence going on, I could've already seen this. Or already be waiting to see it. Or...

refining my guesses RainDog Feb 2014 #1
Coehle's storage shed RainDog Feb 2014 #2
I just caught up yesterday so will respond to specific episodes below Goblinmonger Feb 2014 #21
Bottle or on tap? RainDog Feb 2014 #22
I'm a sucker for a good tap lager Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author RainDog Mar 2014 #27
Excellent tv Sienna86 Feb 2014 #3
Must see TV... mimi85 Feb 2014 #5
episode six guessing game RainDog Feb 2014 #4
Excellent analysis mimi85 Feb 2014 #6
I don't know either RainDog Feb 2014 #7
This show is soooo much deeper than I expected! I'm loving it! Silver Gaia Feb 2014 #8
Those are great RainDog Feb 2014 #9
Links to online speculation RainDog Feb 2014 #10
I binged the first five episodes of this mesmerizing series last night. LonePirate Feb 2014 #11
Dark Was the Night RainDog Feb 2014 #12
Maggie! (6 spoilers) RainDog Feb 2014 #13
ep 7 guesses/maybe spoilers RainDog Feb 2014 #14
Great analysis! liberalmuse Feb 2014 #15
thanks for the kind words RainDog Feb 2014 #16
I think your analysis... liberalmuse Feb 2014 #17
I LOVE what you have to say RainDog Feb 2014 #18
Just have to say mimi85 Feb 2014 #19
that's so sweet of you RainDog Feb 2014 #20
Links to online discussion RainDog Feb 2014 #23
The King in Yellow is available for free RainDog Feb 2014 #24
Beth is such a bad girl she broke the fourth wall RainDog Feb 2014 #25
Can't wait! mimi85 Mar 2014 #28
sigh RainDog Mar 2014 #29
I'm out of guesses RainDog Mar 2014 #30
Honestly.. I'm going to have to find a way to rewatch the series after it ends... hlthe2b Mar 2014 #31
LOL RainDog Mar 2014 #32
Have you read this? hlthe2b Mar 2014 #33
I have now... RainDog Mar 2014 #34
ReLenting RainDog Mar 2014 #35
I can't quit you, TD babe RainDog Mar 2014 #38
Paraphilic Love Map of True Detective online RainDog Mar 2014 #36
Geeshie Wiley - Last Kind Words RainDog Mar 2014 #37
I can barely wait to see the finale tonight (Sunday night)! Tx4obama Mar 2014 #39
I See a Darkness RainDog Mar 2014 #40
The mystery was a counterpoint RainDog Mar 2014 #41
hmmmm RainDog Mar 2014 #42
I don't know... I sort of agree with the DB writer (who wrote the earlier article I posted upstream) hlthe2b Mar 2014 #43
I agree with Alyssa Rosenberg RainDog Mar 2014 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author RainDog Mar 2014 #45
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