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mhatrw

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63. None of this matters if the software or firmware has been programmed to cheat

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Sun Nov 8, 2015, 04:50 PM

Nov 2015

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only when a real election is taking place.

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Unverified results of KY's governor's race [View all] Stevepol Nov 2015 OP

Voting in America is a joke fasttense Nov 2015 #1

Not a joke. A tragedy. nt valerief Nov 2015 #14

And there are forces that want everyone to think like this and just stay home L. Coyote Nov 2015 #18

The mainstream media has not picked up this story yet perdita9 Nov 2015 #2

Ratings game so they can get more commercial(s) money from Diebold..................plus............ turbinetree Nov 2015 #5

It's is why hellraiser69 Nov 2015 #7

I think so for your enjoyment.............................. turbinetree Nov 2015 #11

They likely Won't report fredamae Nov 2015 #17

The same math that all the scientists think is so great says this election was a fraud. If it stands jtuck004 Nov 2015 #3

If the party sees any sign of fraud, they will challenge the results. Remember, the outgoing alfredo Nov 2015 #54

K & R ctsnowman Nov 2015 #4

K & R SunSeeker Nov 2015 #6

Republicans cheat ... end of story Botany Nov 2015 #8

K&R tecelote Nov 2015 #9

Simple enough to check, what does the exit polling say? Dustlawyer Nov 2015 #10

Something stinks here, K&R. ck4829 Nov 2015 #12

Future news: Javaman Nov 2015 #13

So this is a 12 to 14 point discrepancy... Jerry442 Nov 2015 #15

Our candidate was weak. He makes Gore look loosey goosey. alfredo Nov 2015 #58

Rachel Maddow pointed out ejbr Nov 2015 #16

Here is the breakdown of the vote alfredo Nov 2015 #19

Let me get this straight. Stevepol Nov 2015 #20

I've been working with this same group nearly 15 yrs. alfredo Nov 2015 #22

I believe they are all ethical. I also believe the smog shops that passed mhatrw Nov 2015 #26

As yet I have not had any nasty surprises, the vote reflects the county. alfredo Nov 2015 #67

no they don't count paper by hand questionseverything Nov 2015 #25

Does your county have a voter verified paper audit trail? mhatrw Nov 2015 #21

Not in the polling place, but there are a lot of eyes watching the count alfredo Nov 2015 #23

Again, I am not saying that your county's machines are not counting fairly. mhatrw Nov 2015 #24

The software is tested to make sure. alfredo Nov 2015 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author questionseverything Nov 2015 #31

I am a computer programmer. mhatrw Nov 2015 #32

the numbers have matched every time. Results also matched expectations. alfredo Nov 2015 #40

I get that everyone else involved is legit, but the voting machine manufacturers mhatrw Nov 2015 #42

We are doing the best with the machines we have. So far there has been no red flags. alfredo Nov 2015 #44

Our county clerk is an experienced computer programmer. His bio alfredo Nov 2015 #56

how do you "watch" a computer count? questionseverything Nov 2015 #27

They test the vote. If they get out what they put in, it's pass. alfredo Nov 2015 #29

a 14 point swing seems suspicious to me questionseverything Nov 2015 #33

Oh sure. Like I said I can only vouch for my county. alfredo Nov 2015 #36

you can not "vouch" for your county,only the perception you have of your county questionseverything Nov 2015 #38

I see the read out at the end of the day. Then alfredo Nov 2015 #39

The numbers that you check would agree with the totals regardless. Stevepol Nov 2015 #41

So far the final vote from my precinct is the same after counting at the Cnty clerk. alfredo Nov 2015 #43

What does this mean? Stevepol Nov 2015 #60

The data is saved in three places in the machine, then there is the print out. alfredo Nov 2015 #61

Yes. mhatrw Nov 2015 #47

checking the voters list to see how many questionseverything Nov 2015 #48

That's never happened in this county. If it does, there will be an inquiry. alfredo Nov 2015 #62

the trust me system questionseverything Nov 2015 #30

At some point you have to trust those who have earned your trust. alfredo Nov 2015 #45

Why do we have to trust machine counts? mhatrw Nov 2015 #46

People count the result tape votes from each precinct, not machines. alfredo Nov 2015 #50

None of this matters if the software or firmware has been programmed to cheat mhatrw Nov 2015 #63

It hasn't been in our county because the results were as expected. alfredo Nov 2015 #65

our democracy is not built on trust questionseverything Nov 2015 #49

Our vote is not counted in secret. There are witnesses from all parties and the media present. alfredo Nov 2015 #53

yes your votes are counted in secret by secret software that no one can see working questionseverything Nov 2015 #57

Our county clerk is a computer programmer. alfredo Nov 2015 #59

then he knows this is possible questionseverything Nov 2015 #64

My questions about the security of the eSlate and the security measures locally are very good. alfredo Nov 2015 #66

one thing you got right,you will never convince me that any non transparent method questionseverything Nov 2015 #68

fayette county is lexington DAMANgoldberg Nov 2015 #34

Other than... BradBlog Nov 2015 #35

That Dem won because the previous gov was Ernie Fletcher. (R) alfredo Nov 2015 #37

And nobody will actually do a fucking thing about it as our country swirls down the catbyte Nov 2015 #51

The point of this voter suppression B.S. is to make you think like that. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #71

Has anything actually been done? I'll continue to vote & urge others to until I die. catbyte Nov 2015 #72

I have no doubt a GOPer can win in Kentucky. We got beat. Blaming it on Hoyt Nov 2015 #52

I"ve been a Ky election official for longer than I've been on DU. alfredo Nov 2015 #55

Nobody is impugning the "good guys" in KY politics but maybe Stevepol Nov 2015 #69

The SoS will have to sign off on the results, so we will see what she says. alfredo Nov 2015 #70