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In reply to the discussion: The left is so wrong on the Trans-Pacific Partnership [View all]MBS
(9,688 posts)11. I've been very disappointed by Warren's showboating on this
In trying to find psychedelicatessen's comment in the Obamadiary thread you posted, I ran across others that resonated with my own feelings. Look especially at comments by 57andfemale and FoxfireTX
I'm not a super-fan of Hillary, to say the least, but she is right not to make public statements on TPP right now, and Warren is wrong to press her to do so. First of all, I think Hillary agrees with PBO anyway. And, second, even if she did not (which, again, I doubt) , it would be highly unpresidential for her to openly disagree with the president.
I've really hated all the yelling and stridency and posturing by Dems (MY party : () on this issue. Unworthy of us, and less than helpful to President Obama, to say the least.
FoxfireTX
May 19, 2015 at 7:18 pm
Whats really sad, 57, is when Warren focuses her anger on the Rs she is brilliant and would be a true asset to the Dems. I posted previously on her keynote speech to the CA Dem convention and it was a thing of beauty, best take down of trickle down economics Ive ever heard from anyone. But she is so full of herself she thinks she is cool taking on the Dems as well, as if she knows best. She could be tremendous and instead is a nightmare. And for all of those rooting for EW presidential run, that is delusional. She is far too angry to make a good candidate and her focus is very limited.
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2657andfemale
May 20, 2015 at 10:44 am
It shows her political naivete, Foxfire. She doesnt understand how to handle disagreements (I have no problem with opposing views, as long as they dont do damage). But she is doing severe damage to the Democratic brand and therefore to her country. She could offer her expertise and opinions, privately, be part of the solution instead of part of the problem. She could bother to understand the complexity of trade agreements, and weigh fairly whether we are better with nothing than with something that curtails global abuses. But this is where she falls apart. Its sad.
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57andfemale
May 20, 2015 at 11:10 am
To say further, she IS brilliant. I believe in 99% of what she believes. But doing damage to the party, to PBO who has carved the way for every progressive policy moving forward is not acceptable. She should know better, she should understand whats going on. We cannot rebuild properly with this kind of idiocy. Someone as bright as Elizabeth Warren there is no excuse.
May 19, 2015 at 7:18 pm
Whats really sad, 57, is when Warren focuses her anger on the Rs she is brilliant and would be a true asset to the Dems. I posted previously on her keynote speech to the CA Dem convention and it was a thing of beauty, best take down of trickle down economics Ive ever heard from anyone. But she is so full of herself she thinks she is cool taking on the Dems as well, as if she knows best. She could be tremendous and instead is a nightmare. And for all of those rooting for EW presidential run, that is delusional. She is far too angry to make a good candidate and her focus is very limited.
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2657andfemale
May 20, 2015 at 10:44 am
It shows her political naivete, Foxfire. She doesnt understand how to handle disagreements (I have no problem with opposing views, as long as they dont do damage). But she is doing severe damage to the Democratic brand and therefore to her country. She could offer her expertise and opinions, privately, be part of the solution instead of part of the problem. She could bother to understand the complexity of trade agreements, and weigh fairly whether we are better with nothing than with something that curtails global abuses. But this is where she falls apart. Its sad.
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57andfemale
May 20, 2015 at 11:10 am
To say further, she IS brilliant. I believe in 99% of what she believes. But doing damage to the party, to PBO who has carved the way for every progressive policy moving forward is not acceptable. She should know better, she should understand whats going on. We cannot rebuild properly with this kind of idiocy. Someone as bright as Elizabeth Warren there is no excuse.
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My decision on whether has been in reserve for some time, I would like to see the final agreement.
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#2
“This is not a partisan issue,” Warren insisted. Yes, in a twisted way, the hard left’s fixation
Cha
May 2015
#7
"Warren: Obama is intellectually dishonest. Man, that's a fancy way of calling a man a liar."
Cha
May 2015
#8
Look at Elizabeth Warren giving props to the fact that she thinks that GWB was more transparent than
Cha
May 2015
#9
Thank you for all those quotes from the link, MBS.. I think you're one of the rare people who
Cha
May 2015
#12
I was going to post this.. mahalo madame. The case put forth by a showboating U.S. Sen. EW
Cha
May 2015
#6
Washington state has done really well these last 5 years or so, especially in the area of trade.
Major Hogwash
May 2015
#17
"It sure is hard to be an intelligent leader in this country." Indeed.
great white snark
May 2015
#14