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delrem

(9,688 posts)
39. Unlike you I distinguish between the connectors 'and' and 'or'.
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 02:46 AM
Feb 2014

It isn't the kind of distinction that I'm going to allow some coyness about fudging 'to make a point'.

I do hope that Pres. Obama doesn't sign onto some damned Republican cuts to what the Republicans call "entitlements", for the sake of what bought and paid for politicians and pundits call "bipartisanship" and "moderation", however the cuts are named and packaged.

I haven't the perspective that you have, Drunken Irishman. For one thing, I'm a Canadian and haven't the intimate understanding of US social issues that Americans have, or *should* have. For example, I'm astounded beyond anything I could possibly have imagined before it happened that the US would cut the food stamp program -- because the US food stamp program is *already* totally backward (not even in the same ballpark) as compared to minimum annual income type programs being developed in enlightened parts of the world. Likewise "Obamacare" is *already* totally backward compared to any of a variety of single-payer programs already implemented and continuously being developed in enlightened parts of the world (note that these single-payer programs are *all* steps in advancing a minimum annual income policy). I don't see *any* advantage to be had for either Democrats or Americans as a whole from the DLC/third-way strategy of "triangulating" in order to fight for the votes of so-called Republican "moderates". In fact I can't see how such triangulation is anything but suicidal for reasonable, progressive and enlightened people, because such triangulation doesn't appeal to reason. That kind of DLC/third-way type strategy of triangulating against the Republican extreme (or rather, the right-wing corporatist extreme) is pure corporatism, plain and simple.

Kick. Scuba Feb 2014 #1
why the poutrage? it hasn't happened, yet. which, of course, is proof it would never happen. KG Feb 2014 #2
Cue the apologists... durablend Feb 2014 #3
No apology from me for understanding basic civics. Article I, section 8. If the members msanthrope Feb 2014 #6
Meanwhile as we wait... maybe the Pres. *won't sign* such an abomination? delrem Feb 2014 #12
Sure...but then you have the problem of omnibus spending and section 7. This is why 2014 matters. msanthrope Feb 2014 #18
I seem to remember that the Pony meme hit the press FiveGoodMen Feb 2014 #27
good point. yurbud Feb 2014 #40
K & R cate94 Feb 2014 #4
Article I, section 8. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #5
DEAR MR. PRESIDENT, DON'T YOU DARE INVADE CANADA! Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #7
Has Obama suggested invading Canada before? NorthCarolina Feb 2014 #8
Has he cut Medicare, Medicaid or SS? Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #22
He can't do it by himself, but he has hearalded that he thinks it would be a good idea. NorthCarolina Feb 2014 #32
Can you provide the link? Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #35
In what universe is chained CPI not a cut to Social Security??? NorthCarolina Feb 2014 #37
Are benefits actually cut? Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #38
He has threatened cuts before Faygo Kid Feb 2014 #9
Here we go again - the chained CPI is NOT a cut! George II Feb 2014 #16
Yes, it is Faygo Kid Feb 2014 #17
It's a different way of calculating INCREASES (!!!) George II Feb 2014 #19
Ridiculous comment. Chef Eric Feb 2014 #11
Can you give me a link on him saying we need to cut SS, Medicare and Medicaid. Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #23
DI, the fact is that he never said anything about cutting SS, Medicare and Medicaid... George II Feb 2014 #25
John Conyers disagrees with you. bvar22 Feb 2014 #30
Okay then, what is it that Obama said? George II Feb 2014 #31
Rep. John Conyers word is not good enough for you? bvar22 Feb 2014 #33
For your presumptuous information, I was born in Brooklyn NY and live in Connecticut, AND.... George II Feb 2014 #34
shit--that's the bigger story than this letter. yurbud Feb 2014 #42
You can do better than that. delrem Feb 2014 #14
Link me to his plans to cut all three. Thanks! Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #24
Definition of 'or': used to link alternatives. nt delrem Feb 2014 #26
So no? Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #36
Unlike you I distinguish between the connectors 'and' and 'or'. delrem Feb 2014 #39
Not this again. Folks, it ain't gonna happen. berni_mccoy Feb 2014 #10
Wish I could be so sure rurallib Feb 2014 #13
Obama only said the things he did to bring Republicans to the table. That isn't gonna happen now berni_mccoy Feb 2014 #20
If Hillary is thinking about running for Pres. rurallib Feb 2014 #15
These decisions are made in Congress. oldandhappy Feb 2014 #21
Is a simple, direct statement like THIS too much to expect from a Democratic President? bvar22 Feb 2014 #28
if one wants to have the support of Wall Street, apparently yes. yurbud Feb 2014 #44
or what? MisterP Feb 2014 #29
what counterbalancing pain does this budget inflict on the rich? yurbud Feb 2014 #41
left out of the letter: stop letting Wall Street dictate budget policy yurbud Feb 2014 #43
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