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realmirage

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Sat Jun 11, 2016, 03:37 PM Jun 2016

Anyone watch Maher Friday? [View all]

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A lot of Sanders supporters are mad because Maher went on a rant against the 2/3 of Sanders supporters that want free health care and college for only $1000 in extra taxes. He focuses on millennials specifically, insinuating that they know nothing about politics or life except that they are used to getting free stuff (music, porn, 1/3 living at home, parents paying their car insurance and phone). I agree with his point, but would add a footnote. The only part I disagree with, and I don't think he was making this point anyway, is that sometimes "free stuff" isn't about getting stuff free but about getting things we should be getting, like free health care (tax funded, not free). His point is that they don't know enough about government to know that you won't get those things for only $1000 in taxes. I think the main underlying implication here is that if all you know about government is that you want free shit, you're a terrible voter.

Another great moment - guitarist Tom Morello used the "lesser of two evils" phrase to say both parties are bad. Maher called bullshit saying that "in Florida there are hundreds of thousands of people that did not get Medicaid because the governor is a Republican. If the governor was a Democrat they'd be getting health care and not dying." The differences in the two candidates "make differences in actual people's lives, especially the ones who you purport to be most for - the poor people."

Another highlight - Maher said Hillary won fair and square and that Sanders voters can't say it's "fair when you win and rigged when you lose."

And one of my favorite moments - Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine said he was an anarchist and the whole system, including the Bernie movement is worthless and all of it should be burned down. No one agreed with him, including Maher who said "that's easy to say when you live a comfortable life." Today I saw some Sanders voters a bit freaked out by Morello. But what was interesting to me is that Morello sounded like GDP here at DU. What's the difference between an anarchist who wants to burn it all down and a non-voter or someone who votes for parties that can never win? Is there, effectively, a difference?


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Anyone watch Maher Friday? [View all] realmirage Jun 2016 OP
From the beginning, I've asked for an honest answer on the cost. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #1
A lot of people would say that's why Sanders lost. He didn't credibly explain how he'd accomplish realmirage Jun 2016 #10
Don't watch him but thats good to hear! Iliyah Jun 2016 #2
Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUTZGjInaBg&feature=youtu.be Native Jun 2016 #3
It was a good show. BootinUp Jun 2016 #4
I've tuned out for a while but I usually tune back in during general elections. He has his moments. realmirage Jun 2016 #11
And now you know why the world will change but DU won't. Walk away Jun 2016 #5
How do you mean? caquillo Jun 2016 #6
Extrapolate! Walk away Jun 2016 #8
It will change next week when the new rules are enforced. realmirage Jun 2016 #12
The rules will change! Walk away Jun 2016 #14
Cheered when Maher said this (see embed below): Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #7
Yup. applegrove Jun 2016 #9
Bill has his ups and downs but he was on fire last night. Morello is an idiot. realmirage Jun 2016 #13
Morello has made a fortune from privileged kids who think listening to shitty music Maven Jun 2016 #22
Morello enjoys what I call "celebrity privilege," not unlike the kind Sarandon uses to justify her BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #31
Sanders Supporters Freaked Out? Night Watchman Jun 2016 #15
I haven't watched Maher since he "felt the bern", but I may have to actually watch this one. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2016 #16
you'll enjoy it. he was very balanced realmirage Jun 2016 #19
Yes I watched the show. Very good how he countered the Morello. Her Sister Jun 2016 #17
Online I saw some Sanders voters saying they strongly disagreed with Morello realmirage Jun 2016 #18
There is a post in the Bernie forum SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #20
So, what are they left with? Reading Karl Marx for entertainment? nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #24
Cenk Uygur has a shit-ton of books to sell them, I know that much. #progressiveentertainmentcomplex BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #29
Absolute brilliance, my friend, especially on the final point about Morello's luxury of Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2016 #21
So spot on! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #25
Wow, Good on Maher! Cha Jun 2016 #23
Morello is insulated with realmirage Jun 2016 #27
thats shocking MFM008 Jun 2016 #26
Calling anything the government provides "free" is immediately a mistake, and not exactly smart. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #28
And Maher endorsed Sanders early, had him on the show a couple of times, said Hoyt Jun 2016 #30
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