Hillary Clinton

Koinos

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79. Republicans know they can beat Sanders on the tax issue alone.

Reply to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:10 AM

Mar 2016

It is so obvious, I am surprised that this has gotten so little attention.

The elderly, on fixed incomes and Medicare, would be hit very hard.

Free college was a ploy to pander to young people. It really doesn't help anyone else. It certainly doesn't help those who have already graduated and are deep in debt.

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See how much Bernie's tax plan would affect you...Vox Tax Calculator [View all] workinclasszero Mar 2016 OP

Increases my tax burden by $5700 mcar Mar 2016 #1

Crazy ain't it? workinclasszero Mar 2016 #2

Terrifying mcar Mar 2016 #4

But, you would not pay health insurance premiums anymore..... VMA131Marine Mar 2016 #5

Thos savings are already figured in to the Vox calculator. stopbush Mar 2016 #17

You are wrong! VMA131Marine Mar 2016 #19

My premium is $62 a month for Cadillac insurance obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #93

My employer pays 100% of my premium. stopbush Mar 2016 #101

People below the poverty line can't afford that. shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #33

Not me littlebit Mar 2016 #35

I don't pay them now. Yavin4 Mar 2016 #71

A bit more from the article... workinclasszero Mar 2016 #8

Its 6830 more for I and my wife. workinclasszero Mar 2016 #3

How much is your annual health insurance for you and your family? eom Mika Mar 2016 #9

That doesn't matter as the calculator Vox has devised stopbush Mar 2016 #16

This adjustment only accounts for changes in tax rate VMA131Marine Mar 2016 #23

even not paying health care premiums handmade34 Mar 2016 #57

I would also Newkularblue Mar 2016 #78

Most employers that provide health insurance will see a reduction in costs for insurance. VMA131Marine Mar 2016 #18

Using Bernie's 6.2% rate to say the needed increase would be covered by a 6.2% rate stopbush Mar 2016 #26

It will be more than that also. When they tried to implement single payer in Vermont still_one Mar 2016 #51

the problem as I see it... handmade34 Mar 2016 #59

"... I would expect to see some of that savings in increased pay." fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #99

Probably your employer would dash your expectations. They would consider the health insurance... George II Mar 2016 #102

Holy-Cow-Bernie-Would-Raise-My-Taxes-HOW-MUCH ~dailyKos Her Sister Mar 2016 #6

And this is why... SaschaHM Mar 2016 #7

You nailed it workinclasszero Mar 2016 #11

K&R - Excellent reply! SharonClark Mar 2016 #85

$6400. for me under a Sanders Administration. I am very much middle class-breaking even redstateblues Mar 2016 #10

Bernie's plan increases my taxes $7700. Hillary, $80. stopbush Mar 2016 #12

My burden would increase 12.5k Godhumor Mar 2016 #13

Ouch! Lucinda Mar 2016 #14

$2630 increase for me jmowreader Mar 2016 #15

So what he's really saying is... jmowreader Mar 2016 #20

LOL but it won't be enough... shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #34

We should take bets.. SaschaHM Mar 2016 #21

3...2...1... Treant Mar 2016 #24

$6,740 more Treant Mar 2016 #22

Probably not because deductibles and co-insurance/co-pays mostly go away. VMA131Marine Mar 2016 #25

True, but only in Bernie Dreamland. stopbush Mar 2016 #28

I don't pay Treant Mar 2016 #29

It hits pretty hard even if you're well below the poverty line. shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #27

If you earn 30k he want's over a third of your total income in taxes. shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #30

Bernie's plan would add $11,700 to my taxes... MANative Mar 2016 #31

My taxes would increase $14,400 but.. VMA131Marine Mar 2016 #32

Wow. We'd pay $17,000 more under Sanders. But only $140 more under Hillary. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #36

I would pay about 4800 more under Bernie LoveMyCali Mar 2016 #104

That Vox Tax Calculator has gone viral. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #105

OMG LisaM Mar 2016 #37

Same for me obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #94

This calculator is spreading misinformation... Kensan Mar 2016 #38

$6230 more Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #39

Too be fair, you'd supposedly get healthcare, college education for kids, jobs, etc. Hoyt Mar 2016 #40

Picture the campaign ads. workinclasszero Mar 2016 #42

Clearly it's a loser, just look at how quickly Vermont abandoned single payer Hoyt Mar 2016 #43

Right workinclasszero Mar 2016 #46

He and Trump have unworkable tax plans. I would pay $8,160 more. Dawson Leery Mar 2016 #41

Keeping in mind that there are several BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #44

They never were still_one Mar 2016 #53

Why are his taxes so high on low earners? Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #45

If this is accurate, Sander's is out of his mind. Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #47

You're absolutely right. still_one Mar 2016 #49

Increases my tax burden by 10K. That would go over real well in a general elections still_one Mar 2016 #48

a 25.7% increase for me.......... KewlKat Mar 2016 #50

$7500 more for me UMTerp01 Mar 2016 #52

Yikes! I've been asking how much all these increases would be ADDED TOGETHER pnwmom Mar 2016 #54

$16,700 more. Adsos Letter Mar 2016 #55

Additional $2000 NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #56

$19,570 more? No, thanks! I'm glad we caucused for Hillary in the SAF Household! n/t Stand and Fight Mar 2016 #58

I'd pay $7,500 more, with Clinton I'd pay $80 more. George II Mar 2016 #60

mine is increased by $2000 DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #61

I'm fine MSMITH33156 Mar 2016 #62

You're not being selfish DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #64

In my situation I have health care as a benefit and pay the Medicare Part B Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #63

8700 more... nini Mar 2016 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author nini Mar 2016 #66

I can't afford Bernie's spending programs bluestateguy Mar 2016 #67

$7400 more - that would set me back the equivalent of four years in my career ladder. ouch! nt Lisa0825 Mar 2016 #68

Wtf blackdove78 Mar 2016 #69

K&R fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #70

Bernie has not been hit on this at all, but he will be if he's the nominee Yavin4 Mar 2016 #72

here's my take how it sounds: ericson00 Mar 2016 #73

I'd pay $1,630 more. About 10% of my income. shenmue Mar 2016 #74

WARNING!!! Passed this around on Facebook to friends. Stand and Fight Mar 2016 #75

I would pay $7,590 more shadowrider Mar 2016 #76

I ran our targeted income for this year JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #77

Republicans know they can beat Sanders on the tax issue alone. Koinos Mar 2016 #79

"Republicans know they can beat Sanders on the tax issue alone" workinclasszero Mar 2016 #82

$14,190 more Zing Zing Zingbah Mar 2016 #80

Tax increases for everyone is not a great party platform Gothmog Mar 2016 #81

Holy !@#$%^&* - My taxes under sanders would go up more than $10k/yr Politicub Mar 2016 #83

I'm pay about $19K more in taxes under Bernie's plan and $400 more under Hillary's plan. beaglelover Mar 2016 #84

$7590 more for me under Bernie and only $200 more under Hillary SharonClark Mar 2016 #86

24,000 more Stuckinthebush Mar 2016 #87

$14,130 more. Hello beans and rice and more overtime. Sorry mom, we'll have to cut back on Maru Kitteh Mar 2016 #88

My taxes would go up a great deal Gothmog Mar 2016 #89

Sadly everyones taxes would go up big workinclasszero Mar 2016 #90

Nancy Pelosi will not let members of congress run on Sanders platform Gothmog Mar 2016 #98

Pay $4,280 more under Bernie obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #91

At first BS did not answer or mention the question of taxes till Chris Cuomo's Her Sister Mar 2016 #92

KICK! n/t fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #95

KICK! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #96

This was cross posted was it not? eom fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #97

And taxes rise based on health care costs too? ouch n/t fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #100

The big problem is with Bernie's phony numbers. stopbush Mar 2016 #103

Exactly right. That Vox calculator WAY underestimates what we'd pay to cover all of Bernie's stuff. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #106

I think the real number to fund Bernie's plan is 18%. stopbush Mar 2016 #107