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freshwest

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27. The undefined, but rough calculus of such remarks means getting a marjority of the 'minority' votes
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 03:16 PM
Jun 2015
is irrelevant, so long as you get a sufficient percentage of majority voters. In one way, this is correct. The disaffected, take my little red wagon and go home parts of the DP will not vote and so in effect are voting GOP. They are not shaping the country, just look at the states with all these regressive laws being passed and the rights of minorities repealed. Bernie can afford to be clueless.

The majority of voters decide the path the country will take. The majority are white working class and like the GOP, BS is going to appeal to that voting block. and the more entitled and better off white middle class, such as some unions are. They are threatening to not only not vote Democratic, but to vote GOP to give the Demorcratic Party a thrashing.

One that somehow they think all of us can afford, but hey, some people have no problem with pulling the ladder up behind themselves if they have theirs. I'm thoroughly disappointed with the tack some are taking now, having been a union member and shop stewart many years.

They now speak like the union people who became Reagan Democrats. I was up close with them, trying to talk them out of voting for Reagan, but they were sick of the Democratic Party celebrating the rights of women, gays and minorities. I'm getting the same vibe now.

But the Democratic Party does not cede its principles to those with more power. It holds to equality and treating all the same. BS really put his foot in his mouth with this interview. Which is from a source that favors its corporate sponsors more than the public. PBS recites dog whistles for those long time viewers who saw it as most democratic (with the small 'd') than 'commercial' networks.

The GOP starved them until they had to beg for money from the corporations. And 'the one who pays picks the songs that will be played,' as the old saying goes about fiddlers. I expect PBS to go further down the road and be anti-Democratic Party as that is the theme song of the GOP.

Socialists unfortunately have the record of looking down upon such as us. The Democratic Party and other organizations are in the writings of their history, as worthless to the Revolution as were escaped slaves and what they considered society's refuse in the class war. So there is an amount of cynicism and disdain just under the surface with some.

I guess the question we have to ask as Democrats, is what part of the electorate is composed tfo he minority groups most effected by racism, sexism and homophobia? Is our party's promotion of minorities what Bernie and his fans consider a losing strategy?

Because there have been many who have dissed Obama, yelled 'I'm not a racist!' 'We're all the same!' or 'Yeah - but,' while it seems to some uncomfortable living on Bernie's Animal Farm, that we are seen as fit for the slaughterhouse or glue factory and not much else.

And it hurts.

Good news, bad news HassleCat Jun 2015 #1
There is so obvious that the Democrats have it more together than the republicans this election still_one Jun 2015 #4
Would this be the definition of 'populist'? yallerdawg Jun 2015 #2
Yes! shenmue Jun 2015 #3
We could call this... yallerdawg Jun 2015 #5
Yup shenmue Jun 2015 #6
Slippery definitions HassleCat Jun 2015 #8
Slip over to "Populist Reform of the Democratic Party" yallerdawg Jun 2015 #13
It is. :) Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #17
Very telling part of the polling that has certain people twisting in the wind William769 Jun 2015 #7
Yes it shows that it bothers them. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #9
Over the next 8 months William769 Jun 2015 #10
I don't either. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #11
"The lack of racial diversity in New Hampshire is one reason Sanders is coming closer to her there Cha Jun 2015 #18
Is this for real? Jamaal510 Jun 2015 #19
Yes, it's for real, Jamaal.. Cha Jun 2015 #20
I found the link, Jamaal.. Cha Jun 2015 #21
Sigh~ sheshe2 Jun 2015 #22
It's fairly hidden away, she.. Cha Jun 2015 #23
I do not believe him to be a racist either. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #24
Now Bernie's supporters Cha Jun 2015 #25
Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sheshe2 Jun 2015 #26
The undefined, but rough calculus of such remarks means getting a marjority of the 'minority' votes freshwest Jun 2015 #27
K & R Iliyah Jun 2015 #12
snip OKNancy Jun 2015 #14
OhYEAH! n/t OhZone Jun 2015 #15
That poll shows exactly why Hillary okasha Jun 2015 #16
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