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ElboRuum

(4,717 posts)
18. True.
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 05:04 PM
Oct 2013

But then R.E.M wrote Stand. Not exactly the deepest of concepts, but damn, it was a catchy little tune. 10,000 Maniacs wrote Like the Weather and These are Days. Everyone took a dip in the pop pool back then, even if it was just a prelude to sipping three fingers of bourbon at a jazz club.

The 80's were not notorious for political statements of any kind of nature, heavy-handed or otherwise. If your song made it onto the pop charts, it was probably pretty sanitary, cleansed of any real political or philosophical import. To be fair, though, that was the charm of the 80's, the eclecticism. You could get into it deep with 10,000 Maniacs, R.E.M, the Smiths, the Cure, and then throw on a Bangles album in a stunningly unironic way. Sure, the record industry pushed the pop pretty hard and MTV drove the style and the culture, but there seemed to be something for every taste, no one intentionally left out.

To be fair, Sinead's other stuff tends to be more "statement oriented" than the songs that made the charts, but again, it is the political as seen through the eyes of a 20 something still apparently trying to a handle on her own feelings and thoughts. Perhaps with a bit more life experience, taking a bit of time refining her message, she could have actually gotten around to the kind of profundity she mistakenly thought she was achieving through tearing up a picture of the Pope. If she'd given it more of a chance, I am certain that the 90's alt-indie environment would have seen her well received.

I look at her bowing out of music due to her missteps and the poor way they were received as a bit sad. She had a singularly unique and powerful voice, and clearly had something brewing in her to say, even if her failed attempts spoke more to her youth and inexperience in their expression.

Well according to Annie Lennox: Revanchist Oct 2013 #1
And yet, that same song could be considered to be a 3rd wave, porn-ological, "choosy-choice" anthem Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #2
Everyone who considers themselves a vanguard in their time... ElboRuum Oct 2013 #3
Holy fuck, I guess this thread hit a nerve, huh? Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #4
Complete with "limp dick" jokes ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2013 #5
Oh, however shall I survive. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #6
Am I to assume that there is something afoot... elsewhere? ElboRuum Oct 2013 #8
Oh, just yet another case of three posts in TMG causing a 50 post extravaganza, elsewhere. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #9
Now I understand Mary Poppins and her near perpetual feigned exasperation... ElboRuum Oct 2013 #11
How can one be a sexless, calcified old impotent coot AND a pathological lust-filled phallopressor Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #14
My guess is they think we're supposed to get upset by it ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2013 #16
If I whang-whang-whanged on the alert button the way some people here do Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #17
Truthfully... ElboRuum Oct 2013 #7
Exactly. Last I head from Sinead O'Connor, again, she was ripping up the picture of the Pope. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #10
I assume you mean this one... ElboRuum Oct 2013 #12
Yes. I remember those tunes. Not exactly heavyweight-politcal stuff, even for the 80s. Fairly fluffy Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #13
True. ElboRuum Oct 2013 #18
Funny, I hear "These Are Days" and I remember Bill Clinton in 1992. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #20
Another great "deep" 80s artist... Tracy Chapman opiate69 Oct 2013 #22
Yeah, Tracy Chapman is great. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #23
"some of them want to abuse you, some of them want to be abused" is a critique of Capitalism? Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #15
See, now you're just being mean... ElboRuum Oct 2013 #19
Here, he explains that even though the Fed is scaling back its bond-buying program, Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #21
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