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stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
17. I guess it depends what you mean by 'feminist viewpoints' I am a 3rd wave feminist.
Wed May 16, 2012, 08:41 PM
May 2012

I make pretty much all of the standard arguments you would expect from a 3rd waver. I was a 2nd waver until my 2nd wife introduced me to 3rd wave concepts and, to me, they make much more sense. To be sure, there really arent that many differences between the two. They both advocate against violence against women, for equal pay for equal work, etc. And I have argued alongside second wavers here against the use of words like b----h and c--t.

But there are definite differences between 2nd and 3rd wavers and many prominent feminists like Naomi Wolf also are 3rd wavers. The question is, should that difference, and a heated discussion on it, get someone blocked from a group where 2nd vs 3rd wave is not an item discussed in the SOP. AND would I have gotten blocked if it wasnt so obvious I was a male, i.e. if for some reason my profile identified me as female. I strongly believe at this point that my blocking was gender bias, and the fact that Warren was banned when he hadnt posted anything is an important clue to that IMHO.

But my attitude on feminist viewpoints? Here are a few examples:



http://www.democraticunderground.com/11395581

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Election-2010--Republican-by-Steven-Leser-101005-382.html

You can also generally google my name and feminism and women. I write about the topic a lot.
must be using Glenn Beck's crowd estimator ... zbdent May 2012 #1
Man, oh man... opiate69 May 2012 #2
The outrage will cause them to drink Drano (n/m) ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #3
Sex? Sex? SEXXXXX? Warren DeMontague May 2012 #4
She looks like she`s having an attack of the vapors... opiate69 May 2012 #5
Ive heard tell Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #55
It's very funny DavidDvorkin May 2012 #6
Which is why it should be hidden from the feminists group members tech_smythe May 2012 #7
Or equivalently they could avoid looking DavidDvorkin May 2012 #9
you give them too much credit DD tech_smythe May 2012 #22
I mean, shit.. The focus is on the woman's pleasure, her fantasy.. 2 dudes there as sweaty eye candy Warren DeMontague May 2012 #8
As one of the FEMINISTS that so many here seem to HATE.... BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #10
Where are you getting hate? Warren DeMontague May 2012 #11
Where am I getting hate? BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #15
None of those responses came from me. Warren DeMontague May 2012 #18
I didn't see you *correcting* any of those responses BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #20
One small point of order, Warren was preemptively blocked from history of feminism, not feminism stevenleser May 2012 #21
I don't know anything about that either BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #25
It is very frustrating that the differences between the waves is the focus so much stevenleser May 2012 #32
didn't know that. n/t BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #31
you just proved my point tech_smythe May 2012 #23
and you, mine. BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #24
No, like I said, I don't think most Feminists are puritannical would-be censors. Warren DeMontague May 2012 #28
"coming into this group"----Uh oh! BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #29
Sigh..... opiate69 May 2012 #26
true--I have no frame of reference BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #30
I love you trumad May 2012 #35
thank you :) Yes, when you take their own words and BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2012 #41
Is it safe to assume opiate69 Jun 2012 #44
called you out? BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2012 #45
This very thread. Post 20. opiate69 Jun 2012 #46
let me get this straight... BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2012 #49
"women who dont like our sense if humor should drink Liquid Plummr?? opiate69 Jun 2012 #50
you responded before my edit...check again, if you so choose BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2012 #51
That was my post, Blanche ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2012 #52
This ^^^ opiate69 Jun 2012 #53
Excellent post. JTFrog Jun 2012 #40
Thank you!! BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2012 #42
I agree, I think it was empowering for women. stevenleser May 2012 #12
At least you actually posted something that was used to justify booting you. Warren DeMontague May 2012 #13
That is very useful to know. PM coming soon. nt stevenleser May 2012 #14
ok that made me laugh ! nt steve2470 May 2012 #27
I can't honestly speak to this, since I didn't see your post. BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #16
I guess it depends what you mean by 'feminist viewpoints' I am a 3rd wave feminist. stevenleser May 2012 #17
OK! I see you've got chops! BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #19
Apparently the idea of a woman who appears to enjoy hetero sex is too much to stand for some Major Nikon May 2012 #33
So it would seem, only reason I don't have a problem w/this ad is because I'm "conditioned" not to. Warren DeMontague May 2012 #34
Well to be fair... MadrasT May 2012 #36
Dumb ad is sort of redundant. Warren DeMontague May 2012 #37
How about this ad? Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #38
I like that one. MadrasT Jun 2012 #39
I found it odd, too. It's from 2010, which isn't that long ago. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #43
She's beautiful ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2012 #47
Agreed. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #48
Slate: World's Best Condom Ads Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #54
I purchased and used this product today RZM Jul 2012 #56
And then the clog went off to boardhoast.com and spent 3 weeks complaining about you, right? Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #57
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