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rrneck

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8. Well, I've just been thinking...
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 07:25 PM
Apr 2013

It seems that everywhere I look there are red herrings that double as battle lines in the culture wars. Why have a special class of obnoxious behavior. What drives that need? Who really profits from it?

I am given to wonder whether gender issues are really gender issues. Through the magic of disaster capitalism, I sometimes wonder if gender issues have become the source of a revenue stream. I'm trying to find out who's at the creek bank with a bucket.

Here are my responses on another thread that follow those lines in a way...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022660989

Two guys are digging a hole. It's hot, tiring work. Joe says to Ed, "Howzit the boss is up there drinking beer in the shade and we're down here digging this hole?"

Ed says, "Why don't you go up there and ask him?"

"Believe I will", and with that Joe climbs out of the hole and strides up to the boss. "Hey boss, howzit you're up here drinking beer in the shade and we're doing all the work?" The boss replies, "I'll show you". He stands up, holds his hand in front of the tree and says, "Hit my hand as hard as you can". Joe takes a mighty swing and at the last second the boss pulls his hand away causing Joe to hit the tree, fracturing three knuckles. The boss grins and says, "Now do you understand?" Joe says, "I think I've got it".

Joe climbs back down in the hole and Ed asks how it went. Joe says, "The boss explained it perfectly. Here, I'll show you", and with that he holds his injured hand in front of his face and says, "Hit my hand".

..............

The more I think about that joke the more it becomes an accurate analogy about the times in which we live.

The one percent sits under a tree profiting from the labor of the rest of us. When we question the unfairness of our lot, "the boss" holds a moving target out at arms length that hurts us instead of him. That moving target seems to be the endless culture wars that cause us to demand government be an hommage to Christianity, outrage at inequality be an hommage to gender, a secure economic future to be indentured servitude to capitalist expansion, the nonsensical parsing of firearms aesthetics, and a voracious consumer culture that has turned ideology into a product.

And we embrace a tactic foisted on us by the people who are screwing us, take it to our fellows and get punched in the face for our trouble. Isn't that how Libertarianism works?

Robber Baron Jay Gould is famously accused of saying that "He could always hire one half of the poor to kill the other half".


I should probably take it to the philosophy forum.
I've noticed something... [View all] rrneck Apr 2013 OP
There are undoubtedly situations where women engage in this behavior. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #1
Of course it's commonplace. rrneck Apr 2013 #2
it should be, I think. I think gender should be taken out of the equation and we should try to Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2013 #3
I agree that we should try to respect each other as humans, and as individuals. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #5
I agree. I do not use the term myself but, if you are condescending toward me, Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2013 #7
ab-solutely. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #9
well, lord knows! I am not either. I think i am pretty infamous in that regard. - Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2013 #11
Nah. Plus, your name invokes such a mellow song. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #15
When people look for things to stereotype they often find them Gore1FL Apr 2013 #23
Well, I've just been thinking... rrneck Apr 2013 #8
I agree that as the 1% get a strangle hold on all of us that these gender issues are Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2013 #17
They're different because they don't have to care. rrneck Apr 2013 #19
"I'm trying to find out who's at the creek bank with a bucket." lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #24
Well, to be fair rrneck Apr 2013 #25
Except, it's basically used to shut down any explanation coming from someone who is male. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #4
"typically male behavior pattern " Bonobo Apr 2013 #21
Who said there are no typically female behavior patterns? Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #22
In your last example, she seems to be implying that admin can't or wont understand Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #6
I wonder how one could argue convincingly from a position of that kind of certainty rrneck Apr 2013 #10
"why bother ourselves with reality where there's an agenda to be pushed?" Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #12
Pushing agendas pays better than walking a picket line. rrneck Apr 2013 #13
I'll say this: I think for some things there are simply larger forces at work. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #14
We can all agree equality is a good thing. rrneck Apr 2013 #16
No shit. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #18
Use of language and the meaning of words... Buffalo Bull Apr 2013 #20
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