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hunter

(38,345 posts)
3. What you posted is not good. I posted actual numbers.
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 03:35 PM
Jun 2017

Fracked natural gas sucks as bad as coal. Gas consumption world wide is increasing. That's a raw fact. It stings. Why would anyone celebrate that?

Solar and wind are supplemental power sources and there is no evidence yet they can be anything else.

In any case, I'm some kind of misanthropist, amateur environmental/evolutionary biologist with some formal post-graduate training, and a neo-Luddite.

This high energy industrial society affluent people now enjoy will die because it is not sustainable. A nuclear power techno-optimist's utopia like NNadir's, or a wind and solar power optimist's utopia would LOOK NOTHING LIKE today's fossil fueled affluent society.

I'll occasionally post things related to my own vision for the future, a soft crash landing, but they rarely gain any traction.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1127111015

Hell, I can't even convince my wife that a refrigerator is not a necessity... even though I've lived without one as a kid and young adult.

And don't even get me started about our automobile culture. I was sort of hoping it would be dead by now, but that peak oil thing didn't pan out, partly because our refinery industry learned to convert crappy heavy dirty petroleum resources to lightweight fuels, at the cost of increased carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions.

Do the math. It ain't pretty.



Explicitly or haplessly, the article you linked to is more natural gas blather. hunter Jun 2017 #1
Wow, Eko Jun 2017 #2
What you posted is not good. I posted actual numbers. hunter Jun 2017 #3
I was referring to nuclear. Eko Jun 2017 #5
It's not good news, "A Huge Milestone," for the reason I explain. hunter Jun 2017 #6
For some reason Eko Jun 2017 #7
I ask you this: Is it a good milestone or a worrisome milestone? hunter Jun 2017 #8
You just cant do it. Eko Jun 2017 #9
To be fair, the headline appears to imply that more renewables than nuclear is a good thing OKIsItJustMe Jun 2017 #10
Key word is Eko Jun 2017 #11
The lady doth protest too much, methinks OKIsItJustMe Jun 2017 #12
And if I posted an article Eko Jun 2017 #14
Your repeated claim was "Nothing in my post was anti nuclear." OKIsItJustMe Jun 2017 #20
My neo-Luddite self asked a question... hunter Jun 2017 #13
My eko self requested Eko Jun 2017 #15
What is that? Am I indifferent to nuclear power? hunter Jun 2017 #18
It was simple Eko Jun 2017 #19
Fine. You are pro-nuclear or indifferent. hunter Jul 2017 #29
Wow, doubling down. Eko Jul 2017 #30
Yep, doubling down. hunter Jul 2017 #31
Ohhhh, tripling down,,,,, Eko Jul 2017 #32
Nuclear waste, the worst of it, is problematic for a few hundred years. hunter Jul 2017 #34
And you Strawman me Eko Jul 2017 #35
What's your utopia? hunter Jul 2017 #36
..... Eko Jul 2017 #37
I asked you questions. You did not answer. hunter Jul 2017 #38
Then dont Eko Jul 2017 #39
I asked you to Eko Jul 2017 #40
So nothing? Eko Jul 2017 #33
The technical term for your stance is "hogwash". kristopher Jun 2017 #16
Hmmm... I don't think this is the first time... OKIsItJustMe Jun 2017 #4
Coal 2007 2,016,456GWh /// Coal 2016 1,240,108 kristopher Jun 2017 #17
Right OKIsItJustMe Jun 2017 #21
Right. Your number lacks context, has zip value in determining causation or correlation kristopher Jun 2017 #22
It's as valuable as the numbers around which the article was written OKIsItJustMe Jun 2017 #23
No it isn't. kristopher Jun 2017 #24
That cause being? OKIsItJustMe Jun 2017 #25
You imply the relationship between renewable & nuclear is causing coal to rise. kristopher Jun 2017 #26
You assume, ignoring evidence to the contrary. OKIsItJustMe Jun 2017 #27
Riiiight.... kristopher Jun 2017 #28
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