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happyslug

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30. Pam two comments
Tue Feb 19, 2013, 01:21 AM
Feb 2013

First, you have to be calmer in your threads. In many ways you are to confrontational, instead of undermining the positions of people you are trying to correct, you confront them and all that does is get them to go on the defensive and NOT listen to you. Thus your threads amount to doing no good.

The better approach is to take a calmer look at how to correct the person you are correcting. Instead of "Wrong, Wrong, Wrong" you should say something like "You made some errors" and then in the body show what those errors are. Don't accuse a person of lying, most of the people you are dealing with, believe what they are saying is true, and calling them a lying is a waste of time. The better approach is to show WHY they made a mistake, and after a while just drop the issue. Some people will NOT listen to facts, even if the facts are not really is dispute. Some of the Anti-Nuclear people on this board fall into that trap. I have seen some pro-Nuclear people fall into that trap (Through they are more Anti-Nuclear people on DU then pro-nuclear people, so you will run across more Anti0-Nuclear people refusing to accept facts then pro-nuclear people).

I fall into that trip myself, and I have seen you fall into that trap. The best way to handle it is to avoid it by NOT being confrontational. That does NOT mean you do not have to correct anyone who you disagree with, but try to be non-confrontational. It can be hard, some idiots will NEVER listen to what you say, but once you make your statement and defended it, think about dropping out of the fight. Once you have made your point, go on to other issues on DU. Check up on your post and if it need clarification do so, but avoid useless arguments with people who will not listen and you end up talking pass each other rather then to each other.

Second Issue:

The cite Wikipedia cites for its statement as to "To Cheap to Meter" is the following:
http://media.cns-snc.ca/media/toocheap/toocheap.html

It contains some nice statements, including that the cost of fuel is only about 20% of the cost of electricity. The rest is cost of the infrastructure to distribute the electrical power and the cost to build and maintain the plant. Given that the cost to produce electricity is mostly non-fuel, electricity could never be to cheap to meter.

I suspect that is true today

Our Atomic Dominoes are Falling [View all] diane in sf Feb 2013 OP
Shut them all down. JEB Feb 2013 #1
Thank you. Shut them all down yesterday. diane in sf Feb 2013 #2
Saw this at Common Dreams JEB Feb 2013 #3
I'm with you guys on this one. iemitsu Feb 2013 #4
They're all pretty much beyond their useful life Warpy Feb 2013 #5
WRONG!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!! PamW Feb 2013 #15
That is nothing but the nuclear industry's attempt to rewrite history kristopher Feb 2013 #19
Nonsense. FBaggins Feb 2013 #20
Too Cheap To Meter RobertEarl Feb 2013 #25
LIARS!!! PamW Feb 2013 #26
Not only does it lie RobertEarl Feb 2013 #27
LIAR!!! PamW Feb 2013 #29
Heh RobertEarl Feb 2013 #31
More LiES... PamW Feb 2013 #33
You just don't get it do you? RobertEarl Feb 2013 #35
I know the TRUTH!!! PamW Feb 2013 #38
You just don't get it do you? RobertEarl Feb 2013 #40
hmm... nebenaube Feb 2013 #41
If you're old enough to remember it... FBaggins Feb 2013 #43
WRONG!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!! PamW Feb 2013 #22
Pam two comments happyslug Feb 2013 #30
NO! NO! NO! Happyslug RobertEarl Feb 2013 #32
The record speaks for itself - but it drives the anti-nukes crazy. PamW Feb 2013 #36
No one hurt? Killed? RobertEarl Feb 2013 #37
I've got other things to do besides correct nonsense here PamW Feb 2013 #44
Actually I like her, she is an excellent source of information happyslug Feb 2013 #48
LIARS should be confronted!!! PamW Feb 2013 #34
Caps and exclamation points are rude and just piss people off. wtmusic Feb 2013 #45
Caps.. PamW Feb 2013 #46
Ah, like a breath of fresh air. wtmusic Feb 2013 #47
Calling a member of this forum a liar is prohibited. jpak Mar 2013 #50
You know who did the lying? Warpy Feb 2013 #24
WRONG!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!! PamW Feb 2013 #28
Sorry, honey, I was there. Warpy Feb 2013 #42
Initiative Would Shutter California Nuclear Plants For Decades triplepoint Feb 2013 #6
Runs afoul of the US Constitution PamW Feb 2013 #17
You understand the law less than you understand power systems kristopher Feb 2013 #18
WRONG AGAIN!! PamW Feb 2013 #21
"It's not about investors being able to sue..." kristopher Feb 2013 #49
I think we need new reactors Revanchist Feb 2013 #7
That isn't a position that is supportable kristopher Feb 2013 #11
I wish I had more time for serious research into renewables Revanchist Feb 2013 #12
You are correct PamW Feb 2013 #39
Rooting for natural gas and fracking, are they? wtmusic Feb 2013 #8
Your blind support for nuclear is rearing its ugly head again. kristopher Feb 2013 #9
As is your blind support for fracked natural gas NickB79 Feb 2013 #13
Let's take a look at who is actually supporting fracking. kristopher Feb 2013 #16
For reference kristopher Feb 2013 #23
Aubrey McClendon as public benefactor? pscot Feb 2013 #10
I'd favour more research on how to reverse energy demand growth in general. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #14
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