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BlueStreak

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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:39 AM Jun 2013

Fuel cell demonstrates 10,000 hours (equiv to 300,000 miles) [View all]

Last edited Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:09 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.hybridcars.com/cost-effective-uk-fuel-cell-tests-as-durable-as-diesel-engine/

Things are getting pretty exciting. Wind is now a very significant part of our electricity supply -- approaching 5% and growing rapidly. Solar is approaching the financial break-even point where it could take off the same way. There is absolutely no reason for any new electrical plant other than solar, wind, or geothermal. We are already at the point of being able to supply all net additional electricity from wind alone. As this accelerates, we can start retiring nuke plants and the worst coal plants, converting some of the other coal plants to gas to supply the energy float needed when wind and solar are slow.

This is all happening much faster than most people realize. We are potentially about 5 years away from the time when a battery-only car will be an excellent choice for most families as their second around-town car. One factor that is rarely reported is that maintenance on electric-only cars is nearly zero. You have to replace tires, and that's about it. After 8-10 years, you might have to replace the battery, but along the way, no oil changes, no tune-ups, no muffler replacements, no bad oxygen sensors, etc. This is huge, and it is so rarely discussed.

And it seems like fuel cells are really approaching practicality in the 10-year horizon.

Somebody reported that the Energy Depart still projects > 99% of vehicles will have an internal combustion engine by 2035. I don't see how anybody could make such a prediction with all of this movement underway.
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This is just silly. wtmusic Jun 2013 #1
Answer me two questions BlueStreak Jun 2013 #3
I think your implication is that wind and solar will continue their current rate of growth wtmusic Jun 2013 #4
They can expand 1000-fold before hitting any real barriers BlueStreak Jun 2013 #5
A concentrated deployment of wind turbines will never, ever, ever supply 100% of needs. wtmusic Jun 2013 #6
You didn't provide any evidence that wind ower cannot scale up BlueStreak Jun 2013 #7
Peak demand happens at about 7:30 PM wtmusic Jun 2013 #8
Do you understand that electricity is fungible? BlueStreak Jun 2013 #9
Half of the units are stopped because they're either broken, or the wind isn't blowing. wtmusic Jun 2013 #12
That just isn't true BlueStreak Jun 2013 #13
OK, points taken. wtmusic Jun 2013 #14
Fair enough. I agree with you in principle BlueStreak Jun 2013 #16
She didn't provide evidence because there is no evidence. kristopher Jun 2013 #17
Very interesting references BlueStreak Jun 2013 #18
Define "too much capacity" kristopher Jun 2013 #19
People who invest in turbines need to have a reasonable expectation of profits BlueStreak Jun 2013 #21
Quick somebody buy it so it can be shelved for 100 years. nt silvershadow Jun 2013 #2
2016 renewables will be 2X nuclear, also exceeding natgas kristopher Jun 2013 #10
After Record 2012, World Wind Power Set to Top 300,000 Megawatts (300GW) in 2013 kristopher Jun 2013 #11
It really is transformational, and hardly anybody talks about it. BlueStreak Jun 2013 #15
Excellent point. kristopher Jun 2013 #20
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