Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Environment & Energy
In reply to the discussion: ERRORS in rebuttal to "Pandora's Promise" [View all]bananas
(27,509 posts)4. Kerry didn't lie, in fact he was validated by MIT a decade later
You wrote:
It was the Clinton Administration that halted the IFR program, and did so by having then Senator Kerry LIE to his colleagues in Congress.
Wow - a right-wing conspiracy theory attacking Kerry right after he negotiates an historic agreement between Iran and the P5+1 nations.
No, Kerry didn't lie about the IFR.
Kerry, Clinton, Gore, and Congress were absolutely correct in canceling it.
They were validated by the "most important recommendation" in MIT's 2003 report "The Future of Nuclear Power":
Our analysis leads to a significant conclusion: The once-through fuel cycle best
meets the criteria of low costs and proliferation resistance. Closed fuel cycles
may have an advantage from the point of view of long-term waste disposal
and, if it ever becomes relevant, resource extension. But closed fuel cycles will
be more expensive than once-through cycles, until ore resources become very
scarce. This is unlikely to happen, even with significant growth in nuclear
power, until at least the second half of this century, and probably considerably
later still. Thus our most important recommendation is:
meets the criteria of low costs and proliferation resistance. Closed fuel cycles
may have an advantage from the point of view of long-term waste disposal
and, if it ever becomes relevant, resource extension. But closed fuel cycles will
be more expensive than once-through cycles, until ore resources become very
scarce. This is unlikely to happen, even with significant growth in nuclear
power, until at least the second half of this century, and probably considerably
later still. Thus our most important recommendation is:
For the next decades, government and industry in the U.S. and elsewhere
should give priority to the deployment of the once-through fuel cycle,
rather than the development of more expensive closed fuel cycle
technology involving reprocessing and new advanced thermal or fast
reactor technologies.
Two of the participants in that report were John Holdren and Ernest Moniz.
Obama selected Holdren to be his Science Advisor,
and Obama appointed Moniz to head the Department of Energy.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
71 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Yes, the EIA publish data on expected energy future use AND all sources of energy.
happyslug
Nov 2013
#1
It was EXACTLY the level of journalistic quality that I would have expected from "The Nation".
caraher
Nov 2013
#3
There are four primary problem area with nuclear technology (not counting social and systems issues)
kristopher
Nov 2013
#9
DOE: "Virtually any combination of plutonium isotopes...can be used to make a nuclear weapon."
bananas
Nov 2013
#6
No, PamW; Richard Garwin, John Holdren, and President Obama all know you're wrong.
bananas
Dec 2013
#37
"If you have any type of plutonium in sufficient quantities you can make a bomb." Selden 2009
kristopher
Dec 2013
#59