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Environment & Energy

LouisvilleDem

(303 posts)

11. I'll answer it

Reply to BrotherIvan (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 10, 2013, 04:13 PM

Dec 2013

When the world can no longer produce enough food to feed its population, the people who have the least amount of money to buy whatever food is available will die. Given that those people are the ones with the highest birth rates, the result is a brutal but sustainable situation. I've never understood why people think lack of food is the problem that will do us in.

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Turns out those old-fashioned ways of farming were actually pretty smart [View all] xchrom Dec 2013 OP

took them long enough niyad Dec 2013 #1

No doubt they were right for their time, and worth exploring again, but that's only half the story. Geoff R. Casavant Dec 2013 #2

Yup! ffr Dec 2013 #5

The question no one wants to answer BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #10

I'll answer it LouisvilleDem Dec 2013 #11

Nations are not isolated islands in a global economy NickB79 Dec 2013 #20

Exactly LouisvilleDem Dec 2013 #22

The only thing farming innovations and crop improvements have ever done truebluegreen Dec 2013 #13

K&R DeSwiss Dec 2013 #3

The main problem however, is that it's hard work and... ffr Dec 2013 #4

I read a study which disagreed - that Asian traditional methods had the highest yield bhikkhu Dec 2013 #6

If that were true LouisvilleDem Dec 2013 #12

Real farmers don't, but mechanized corporations do--Better Living Through Chemistry! truebluegreen Dec 2013 #14

Source? LouisvilleDem Dec 2013 #24

You can't plant a 1000 acres of wheat or corn pscot Dec 2013 #15

It is true, but it is labor intensive bhikkhu Dec 2013 #16

I've seen no evidence of reduced yields LouisvilleDem Dec 2013 #23

That's not the claim at all bhikkhu Dec 2013 #25

Or - think of it in a different way and it makes more sense bhikkhu Dec 2013 #26

Sorry LouisvilleDem Dec 2013 #27

I suspect that you don't actually care at all, but here's a few anyway: bhikkhu Dec 2013 #29

Thank you LouisvilleDem Dec 2013 #34

You seriously can't follow a well reasoned argument without an outside reference? kristopher Dec 2013 #30

Sustainable agriculture is the future . . . Geoff R. Casavant Dec 2013 #7

Unless sustainable agriculture doesn't exist The2ndWheel Dec 2013 #9

If the only factor was pesticide use and species extinction, then that might be a good argument jeff47 Dec 2013 #8

Again, that's just not true bhikkhu Dec 2013 #17

You are talking about rice. One crop. jeff47 Dec 2013 #18

Bio-intensive, labor intensive agriculture produces 2-6 times the yield of industrial ag bhikkhu Dec 2013 #19

No, the papers do not say that. jeff47 Dec 2013 #21

You need to spend a summer on a working farm pscot Dec 2013 #28

Have you ever worked in the terraced paddies of China? kristopher Dec 2013 #31

I'm sure I'd remember if I had pscot Dec 2013 #32

How do you think the responses to bhikkhu's posts here kristopher Dec 2013 #33

There was some pushback pscot Dec 2013 #35

The dieting analogy is a good one kristopher Dec 2013 #36