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In reply to the discussion: Turns out those old-fashioned ways of farming were actually pretty smart [View all]LouisvilleDem
(303 posts)24. Source?
In integrated organic farm produces more, and better food per acre than a factory farm with less petroleum, fewer pesticides and less water.
What is your source for this claim? Does it come from peer reviewed literature whose results have been replicated by others? I have no doubt that you can find some isolated "study" paid for by the organic food industry (and yes, that is what it has become at this point). However, to claim that there is a method of farming out there that will increase yields while spending less money on materials, but this method remains unused for idealogical reasons flies in the face of reason. Corporations are out to make money, and if a different method of farming will make them more money they will use it. That is precisely why the industry has embraced organic farming to the degree that they have. They have discovered that for a small (but growing) market they can make more money growing organic and charging more to make up for reduced yields.
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I found this: http://www.nature.com/news/organic-farming-is-rarely-enough-1.10519
"I think organic farming does have a role to play because under some conditions it does perform pretty well," says Verena Seufert, an Earth system scientist at McGill University in Montreal, Canada, and the studys lead author. But "overall, organic yields are significantly lower than conventional yields", she says.
What is your source for this claim? Does it come from peer reviewed literature whose results have been replicated by others? I have no doubt that you can find some isolated "study" paid for by the organic food industry (and yes, that is what it has become at this point). However, to claim that there is a method of farming out there that will increase yields while spending less money on materials, but this method remains unused for idealogical reasons flies in the face of reason. Corporations are out to make money, and if a different method of farming will make them more money they will use it. That is precisely why the industry has embraced organic farming to the degree that they have. They have discovered that for a small (but growing) market they can make more money growing organic and charging more to make up for reduced yields.
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I found this: http://www.nature.com/news/organic-farming-is-rarely-enough-1.10519
"I think organic farming does have a role to play because under some conditions it does perform pretty well," says Verena Seufert, an Earth system scientist at McGill University in Montreal, Canada, and the studys lead author. But "overall, organic yields are significantly lower than conventional yields", she says.
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Turns out those old-fashioned ways of farming were actually pretty smart [View all]
xchrom
Dec 2013
OP
No doubt they were right for their time, and worth exploring again, but that's only half the story.
Geoff R. Casavant
Dec 2013
#2
I read a study which disagreed - that Asian traditional methods had the highest yield
bhikkhu
Dec 2013
#6
Real farmers don't, but mechanized corporations do--Better Living Through Chemistry!
truebluegreen
Dec 2013
#14
You seriously can't follow a well reasoned argument without an outside reference?
kristopher
Dec 2013
#30
If the only factor was pesticide use and species extinction, then that might be a good argument
jeff47
Dec 2013
#8