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In reply to the discussion: Carbon-Free Energy Is Possible -- Without Nukes [View all]kristopher
(29,798 posts)29. Yeah! You don't understand.
It's classified.
caraher
response to PamW
51. bananas and kristopher certainly win on source credibility here
Unlike any of us asserting unverifiable credentials on this board, it's easy to tell that Selden is immune to the oft-leveled charge of not being a SCIENTIST or bomb designer, as he is both. From his NNSA bio:
ROBERT SELDEN is currently a private consultant in defense science and research management. He retired in 1993 as an associate director at the Los Alamos National Laboratory. His career in the DOE national laboratories began at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in the 1960s when he was one of the two participants in the Nth Country Experiment to design a nuclear explosive from unclassified information. After moving to Los Alamos in 1979, he served as the Division Leader of the Applied Theoretical Physics Division, as Associate Director for Theoretical and Computational Physics, and as the first Director of the Los Alamos Center for National Security Studies. Dr. Selden served as the Chief Scientist of the U.S. Air Force from 1988 to 1991 where he received the Air Force Associations Theodore von Karman Award for outstanding contributions to defense science and technology. He has been a member of the Strategic Advisory Group to the Commander of the United States Strategic Command since 1995. Since 2003 he has served as Chairman of the Advisory Group's Stockpile Assessment Team, which has the responsibility to conduct a detailed annual review of the United States nuclear weapon stockpile. He also is currently a member of the Joint Advisory Committee on Nuclear Surety to the Secretaries of Defense and Energy. He was a member of the Air Force Scientific Advisory Board from 1984 to 2005. Dr. Selden received his BA degree from Pomona College, Claremont, California, in 1958, and his Ph.D. degree in Physics from the University of Wisconsin in 1964.
response to PamW
51. bananas and kristopher certainly win on source credibility here
Unlike any of us asserting unverifiable credentials on this board, it's easy to tell that Selden is immune to the oft-leveled charge of not being a SCIENTIST or bomb designer, as he is both. From his NNSA bio:
ROBERT SELDEN is currently a private consultant in defense science and research management. He retired in 1993 as an associate director at the Los Alamos National Laboratory. His career in the DOE national laboratories began at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in the 1960s when he was one of the two participants in the Nth Country Experiment to design a nuclear explosive from unclassified information. After moving to Los Alamos in 1979, he served as the Division Leader of the Applied Theoretical Physics Division, as Associate Director for Theoretical and Computational Physics, and as the first Director of the Los Alamos Center for National Security Studies. Dr. Selden served as the Chief Scientist of the U.S. Air Force from 1988 to 1991 where he received the Air Force Associations Theodore von Karman Award for outstanding contributions to defense science and technology. He has been a member of the Strategic Advisory Group to the Commander of the United States Strategic Command since 1995. Since 2003 he has served as Chairman of the Advisory Group's Stockpile Assessment Team, which has the responsibility to conduct a detailed annual review of the United States nuclear weapon stockpile. He also is currently a member of the Joint Advisory Committee on Nuclear Surety to the Secretaries of Defense and Energy. He was a member of the Air Force Scientific Advisory Board from 1984 to 2005. Dr. Selden received his BA degree from Pomona College, Claremont, California, in 1958, and his Ph.D. degree in Physics from the University of Wisconsin in 1964.
PamW:
Response to caraher (Reply #51)Thu Dec 5, 2013, 01:48 PM
52. NOPE!! They do NOT!!
caraher,
The key point is that Selden RETIRED in 1993.
When you retire; you don't have access to the CLASSIFIED information any more.
It was about 1993 that the CLASSIFIED techniques to insure that IFR can NOT be used for weapons were developed.
I don't care how many awards someone gets; even if they get the Nobel Prize in Physics.
If they no longer have the CLEARANCE to know HOW the IFR can achieve weapons-free capability;
then they just plain DO NOT KNOW.
PamW
Response to caraher (Reply #51)Thu Dec 5, 2013, 01:48 PM
52. NOPE!! They do NOT!!
caraher,
The key point is that Selden RETIRED in 1993.
When you retire; you don't have access to the CLASSIFIED information any more.
It was about 1993 that the CLASSIFIED techniques to insure that IFR can NOT be used for weapons were developed.
I don't care how many awards someone gets; even if they get the Nobel Prize in Physics.
If they no longer have the CLEARANCE to know HOW the IFR can achieve weapons-free capability;
then they just plain DO NOT KNOW.
PamW
caraher
Response to PamW (Reply #52)Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:05 PM
53. Well, it seems you are a liar, traitor or a fool - your choice
If you're telling us that classified information proves IFR poses no proliferation risk, you are a traitor to your country by revealing the existence of classified information.
If this information does not exist, your are telling lies.
If you think any sane person should prefer to accept your unverifiable claims over the considered opinion of a man who spent a decades-long career studying these issues, is still an active consultant on these questions and worked on these problems at the highest levels of the scientific nuclear security establishment, you are a fool.
Response to PamW (Reply #52)Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:05 PM
53. Well, it seems you are a liar, traitor or a fool - your choice
If you're telling us that classified information proves IFR poses no proliferation risk, you are a traitor to your country by revealing the existence of classified information.
If this information does not exist, your are telling lies.
If you think any sane person should prefer to accept your unverifiable claims over the considered opinion of a man who spent a decades-long career studying these issues, is still an active consultant on these questions and worked on these problems at the highest levels of the scientific nuclear security establishment, you are a fool.
If PamGregG actually has a clearance, it wouldn't last long if they knew of the erratic behavior on display here; the shrinks would have a field day with the breakdown of reason involved in his narratives.
For example:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/112758716
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I believe things are different today; take the of evaluation of the CEO of NRG
kristopher
Dec 2013
#5
No, I'm saying you aren't a scientist because you falsely report the results of research and data.
kristopher
Dec 2013
#19
PamW you're always throwing around all this about how you're a scientist and all
madokie
Dec 2013
#27
Cost-minimized combinations renewables powering the grid up to 99.9% of the time
kristopher
Dec 2013
#35