Israel/Palestine

shira

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43. You claim 2 different forms of BDS & you can't back that up. Game over.

Thu Sep 29, 2016, 05:52 AM

Sep 2016

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What you believe about BDS is irrelevant. You're wrong and you cannot justify your POV.

I've shown how the Illinois legislation doesn't differentiate between Israel and the occupied territories. There are twelve more states that have legislation that does the exactly same thing. For me, this is a bigger problem than trying to figure out whether calling for boycotts, divestment and sanctions of the settlements is the same as BDS.

That list includes FreedomCall, which boycotts Israel - not just the settlements.

If you say they are just boycotting the occupation, that's crap because they're boycotting all Israel, not just the occupation. Besides, why didn't they just boycott the Gaza occupation before the Gaza war, if it's only about occupation? I call bullshit on your claim. They're clearly targeting all Israel because of the Gaza war, not settlements and not occupation.

So you're clearly wrong, why not just admit it and move on?

So what do you think of the anti-BDS legislation that doesn't differentiate between Israel and the settlements?

FreedomCall boycotts all Israel.

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Over 70 American Intellectuals Call for 'Targeted Boycott' of Israeli Settlements [View all] Little Tich Sep 2016 OP

"No" FBaggins Sep 2016 #1

Self-proclaimed? Where do they call themselves intellectuals? Duppers Sep 2016 #4

Seriously? King_David Sep 2016 #47

The BDS crew doesn't think this is good enuff, too weak. shira Sep 2016 #2

BDS is a tool, not an organization. Little Tich Sep 2016 #5

BDS is a movement. So say the founders of BDS.... shira Sep 2016 #6

BDS has been around longer than the organization calling itself BDS. Little Tich Sep 2016 #8

Do you make this up as you go along? BDS started with Omar Barghouti... shira Sep 2016 #9

I think you prove my point perfectly. n/t Little Tich Sep 2016 #10

I'm not sure you know what your point is. n/t shira Sep 2016 #11

"We, the undersigned, oppose an economic, political, or cultural boycott of Israel itself" oberliner Sep 2016 #3

Do you think that opposing the settlements in some form is a good idea, or is it better to not Little Tich Sep 2016 #7

They oppose settlements, but they do not support BDS. shira Sep 2016 #13

Seems like a good idea to me oberliner Sep 2016 #19

Which means they're not BDS. In fact, many of them oppose BDS. n/t shira Sep 2016 #12

All legislation against BDS targets the type that's against the settlements, Little Tich Sep 2016 #14

FreedomCall UK isn't about settlements. G4S admits they oppose BDS. shira Sep 2016 #15

FreedomCall UK divested due Israel's war on Gaza, and G4S were involved in the occupation. Little Tich Sep 2016 #16

Right, so FreedomCall UK wasn't about settlements. G4S wasn't either. shira Sep 2016 #17

Settlements and occupation. n/t Little Tich Sep 2016 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author shira Sep 2016 #27

Not FreedomCall. They cited the Gaza War, boycotted Israel not settlements. shira Sep 2016 #37

Israel bombing and killing civilians in occupied Gaza is the "occupation" part. Little Tich Sep 2016 #38

What part of FreedomCall boycotting all Israel (not just settlements) don't u get? shira Sep 2016 #41

So we have whittled down all those Israel BDSers on the list to only one company Little Tich Sep 2016 #44

No, you used that list to prove BDS is just anti-settlements.... shira Sep 2016 #45

I cherry-picked by choosing that list, I must admit... Little Tich Sep 2016 #46

So enough of the claim BDS is just about settlements. That's a lie. shira Oct 2016 #48

You keep using that chart. Have you even read it? FBaggins Sep 2016 #18

Settlements and occupation. n/t Little Tich Sep 2016 #23

That list is a lie. Not surprising in the least given BDS lies all the time... shira Sep 2016 #33

Cactus Supermarket backed down just 2 days later. No boycott! shira Sep 2016 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author shira Sep 2016 #20

These boycotters do not support BDS. Narrative buster. shira Sep 2016 #21

The legal definition of BDS in every piece of legislation against BDS includes the occupied territor Little Tich Sep 2016 #22

You've been wrong about BDS the whole time, insisting it's only settlements. shira Sep 2016 #25

So these people in post #21 who eloquently call for boycotts, divestment Little Tich Sep 2016 #31

Right, these signees from the OP do not support BDS, just like Uri Avnery... shira Sep 2016 #32

It seems as those who signed the letter support BDS of the settlements, but oppose the all out BDS Little Tich Sep 2016 #34

Holy crap, there is no such thing as BDS of settlements. shira Sep 2016 #35

To recap: The lawmakers in 13 US states firmly believe that BDS of the settlements and BDS of Israel Little Tich Sep 2016 #40

You claim 2 different forms of BDS & you can't back that up. Game over. shira Sep 2016 #43

I wish there was a word to describe phallon Sep 2016 #26

Plenty of people criticize Netanyahu w/o going overboard. shira Sep 2016 #28

Not in Republican circles or the MSM phallon Sep 2016 #29

Republicans love him. But the NYT & WAPO criticize Bibi & Israel constantly. shira Sep 2016 #30

Netanyahu is a Hitler apologist who hates Palestinians and who will probably Little Tich Sep 2016 #39

Specious claim. n/t shira Sep 2016 #42