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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 04:49 PM Apr 2012

If I were PM, I would de-Zionize Israel and quit [View all]

Deemed a persona non grata in Israel, Prof. Ilan Pappe (currently a professor of history at the University of Exeter in the UK, and co-director of the Exeter Center for Ethno-Political Studies) minces no words in telling the real story of Zionist crimes against Palestinians. The price he paid: Effectively being forced out of his teaching post in the University of Haifa and ultimately out of the country of his birth. Up until 2007, he was a senior lecturer in the Department of Political Science at the University of Haifa but fearing for his and his family's safety, he felt impelled to leave Israel after he was bombarded with death threats.

Condemned by the Knesset, his picture had appeared in the country's biggest-selling newspaper at the center of a target. Next to it, a popular columnist addressed his readers thus: “I'm not telling you to kill this person, but I shouldn't be surprised if someone did.”

Why all this? Well the road to his semi-voluntary exile in Britain started in 2000-2001 with the Katz affair when Pappe defended Teddy Katz and his thesis on the 1948 massacre and expulsion of Palestinians from villages in the vicinity of Haifa. As a result he was vilified and compared to a Nazi collaborator. When Pappe signed on to a boycott of Israeli universities in 2002, he was accused of “defamation” in a disciplinary hearing and called to stand for trial in his university. His intent to teach a course on the Nakbah (Catastrophe) as well as his support for boycott on Israel has led the university to the conclusion that he can only be stopped by expulsion, as Pappe wrote in a letter about his threatened dismissal.

In 2006, Pappe published his controversial book “The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine” in which he explains and documents that the true goal of the founders of Zionism had always been to create a majority Jewish state, emptied as much as possible of the native Palestinian population. He meticulously and painfully reconstructs the story of how Zionist leaders, over many decades, carefully laid the groundwork for this expulsion and how they initiated their plan in 1948 when the British finally decided to leave. Pappe debunks the official line parroted in Israel and the West (and even by some misguided Arabs), maintaining that the refugee flight was not instigated by Arab leaders but rather caused by persecution, violence, expulsion.

http://arabnews.com/world/article619726.ece

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If he were PM, he would have destroyed Israel, so it would be a moot point. Behind the Aegis Apr 2012 #1
Oh, those evil Jews. What would we do without the ARABNEWS? aquart Apr 2012 #2
I am pretty sure I have no idea what any component of your response means oberliner Apr 2012 #4
Pappe is rarely heard let alone listened to outside of his anti-Israel circles ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #5
He is heard here from time to time oberliner May 2012 #24
He has his cult following. n/t shira May 2012 #31
It means that you're a Jew-killer now... shaayecanaan Apr 2012 #6
Who is 'trying to think of more ways to get Jews killed'? LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #10
Pappe defended Teddy Katz's fabrication of a 1948 massacre that never was... shira Apr 2012 #3
yes the Tantura affaire' is rather interesting azurnoir Apr 2012 #7
and did you know that some people call Tel Aviv the capital of Israel? shaayecanaan Apr 2012 #8
The Guardian claims Tel Aviv is the capital of Israel. Do you agree with that 'fact'? n/t shira Apr 2012 #11
Holy fucking Jesus. Do they really? shaayecanaan Apr 2012 #13
It comes down to credibility. WRT facts, Guardian reporting can't be trusted... shira Apr 2012 #14
ah 10 years can indeed blur the memory can't it? azurnoir May 2012 #15
But you didn't comment on the article. Here it is again... shira May 2012 #23
yes I did comment on what happened in Jenin apparently you did not 'pick up' on azurnoir May 2012 #25
No, no, no. The article isn't just about Jenin but how it was reported... shira May 2012 #29
The Guardian's reporting of Jenin differed little from anyone elses including IDF radio azurnoir May 2012 #30
I don't think you read the article. It's not about what the Guardian originally.... shira May 2012 #32
yes I did read Myrrh's article n/t azurnoir May 2012 #34
It is and there's no good reason to say otherwise. Ken Burch May 2012 #16
It is? oberliner May 2012 #17
Why does it matter? Ken Burch May 2012 #18
You tell me oberliner May 2012 #20
Look, Jerusalem is the effective capital Ken Burch May 2012 #21
Please stop with the straw man arguments... shira May 2012 #33
Edinburgh isn't actually in "England"...it's in Scotland. Ken Burch May 2012 #37
actually Edinburgh is the capital of Scotland azurnoir May 2012 #38
You're right of course. Ken Burch May 2012 #39
You still don't get it or pretend not to... shira May 2012 #40
It has no practical effect. Ken Burch May 2012 #41
Because it's one of many deliberate lies WRT Israel. Don't you expect... shira May 2012 #26
Katz lied. Pappe still supports Katz's crap. And not every battle of every war... shira Apr 2012 #12
Did you read Benny Morris's piece in the PDF? azurnoir May 2012 #22
Katz didn't just quote a dishonest 'witness'. He fabricated witness testimony. shira May 2012 #27
so your saying that Katz only interviewed that one person? azurnoir May 2012 #28
Was this translated from Persian? oberliner May 2012 #35
well at least you got my point azurnoir May 2012 #36
I'm glad we all still have a sense of humor oberliner May 2012 #42
He'll easily get elected PM of Israel on that platform! LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #9
I doubt Pappe was ever planning to try to become pm. Ken Burch May 2012 #19
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