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KDLarsen

(1,903 posts)
7. A quick strawman more like it..
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 12:32 PM
Dec 2011

It was brought up on DU2, and IIRC it was pointed out how it doesn't even finish the first sentence without completely misrepresenting the actual truth.

It's nothing but a truther's satire over what he/she wants the "official story" strawman to be, in order for him/her to be able to dismiss it.

Edit: Let's just take the first sentence step by step.

On the morning of September 11, 2001, 19 men armed with boxcutters
.. and knives, mace, as well as what appeared to be guns and bombs.

directed by a man
There is no evidence that Osama bin Laden was involved in the running of the operations after the lead 9/11 hijackers were in the US. He was certainly involved at the planning stage, including making the selection of Mohammed Atta as the leader of the hijackers, but beyond that it was being run by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Ramzi bin al-Shibh.

on dialysis
There is no evidence that OBL ever had kidney disease to the point of him needing dialysis.

in a cave fortress halfway around the world
There is no evidence that OBL employed the use of caves prior to the 9/11 attacks and the US led invasion of Afghanistan. Why would he? He was the guest of the Taliban government and even had a home at Tarnak Farms.

using a satellite phone and a laptop
See above, OBL was never involved in the runnings of the operations.

directed the most sophisticated penetration
No penetration of the ADIZ was made, all flights began in domestic airspace.

of the most heavily-defended airspace in the world
I can think of a few places being more heavily defended than commercial US airspace.

overpowering the passengers and the military combat-trained pilots on 4 commercial aircraft
Really? Only Charles Burlingame was military, and he had been out of the military for a good couple of years prior to 9/11. But perhaps the narrator can enlighten us, as to what sort of military training teaches you to overpower 2 or more attackers, coming up on you from behind and trying to slit your throat while you're strapped to your seat.

before flying those planes wildly off course for over an hour without being molested by a single fighter interceptor.
AA11 hijacked between 8:14 & 8:24 AM, crashed at 8:46 AM. 32 minutes.
UA175 hijacked between 8:42 & 8:46 AM, crashed at 9:03 AM. 21 minutes.
AA77 hijacked between 8:51 & 8:54 AM, crashed at 9:37 AM. 46 minutes.
UA93 hijacked between 9:25 & 9:27 AM, crashed at 10:03 AM. 38 minutes.

Not a single flight was "off course for over an hour". On top of that, the only intercept that took place entirely in domestic airspace prior to 9/11, the Payne Stewart crash, it took nearly 1½ hours to intercept the aircraft.

loved it libodem Dec 2011 #1
Brilliant!! Ghost in the Machine Dec 2011 #2
Haha! good one. K&R (nt) T S Justly Dec 2011 #3
k&r-very good-Thanks! TheUnspeakable Dec 2011 #4
Yes, that's everything I need to know about truthers in under 5 minutes. cpwm17 Dec 2011 #5
I'm sorry, I missed the part that's truther. FourScore Dec 2011 #6
A quick strawman more like it.. KDLarsen Dec 2011 #7
Seriously. It's like trying to find out about President Obama from World News Daily. n/t Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #8
I just googled the archives. You spend an awful lot of time trying to discredit those FourScore Dec 2011 #9
On the contrary, I discredit the arguments being made KDLarsen Dec 2011 #10
This is true and deserves correcting. I genuinely apologize FourScore Dec 2011 #15
No worries, apology accepted KDLarsen Dec 2011 #16
It's important that the American public properly understands 9-11 cpwm17 Dec 2011 #17
I think the word "truther" is often (but not always) a false label. FourScore Dec 2011 #18
It's a discussion board, so why is it odd? zappaman Dec 2011 #11
Why are you spending time changing the subject and none responding to the points made? nt greyl Dec 2011 #14
Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #19
"Charles Burlingame" mrarundale Dec 2011 #20
"what appeared to be guns and bombs" ottobahn Dec 2011 #23
It's my understanding that they used wires and modeling clay to build what looked like Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #24
Transcript and sources jesters Jan 2012 #26
so, was AA 77 was hijacked at 8:14? or did AA 11 crash at 9:37? OnTheOtherHand Jan 2012 #28
It's pretty easy to explain LARED Dec 2011 #13
At 1:28 --> "If you can believe that..." LMFAO!!! Nostradammit Dec 2011 #12
That rocks! Thanks! wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #21
Love the fictional cave fortress @:21 !!! n/t ottobahn Dec 2011 #22
No one loved it more than Rumsfeld deconstruct911 Jan 2012 #29
Good find! Lol. jesters Jan 2012 #30
Great vid! nt antitsa Dec 2011 #25
BTW, jesters Jan 2012 #27
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