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jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
22. moi l'raison
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 12:21 PM
Mar 2013

sari: After vets I think the biggest amount of buyers are those who look on it as an investment or feel that if there is so much of a push to ban them, it must somehow be better than other rifles.

Surely you must realize the ridiculous logic in those buying for your latter reason? do people go out en masse & purchase things banned by the govt? in general? no of course not, they tend to think the govt is banning them for a valid reason.

Eleanors38 Fear and pre-occupation with sexual identity is an obsession with gun-controllers...

Which nra certified psychiatrist said that?

el: Historically, the civilian population takes up the arms style and action the military had in the LAST war, then modifies that arm with bells & whistles. The big change in this dynamic is the military's advance to full-auto, while the civilian population had reached stasis with WW II (and earlier) technologies: Semi-auto fire.

The m16 was developed in good part to provide a lightweight semi-auto & automatic rifle which used lightweight .223 bullets rather than larger calibers, so that infantry could carry lotsa ammo with less energy drain while marching or on patrol.
Explain to me why this rationale is needed in american communities? where do ordinary americans go 'on patrol' for extended time periods where carrying an m16 would offset carrying a concealed handgun or open rifle? (hunting is disallowed since several states already disallow m16 clones for hunting.)

el: If I were a couple of decades younger, I would probably choose an AR 15 "lower" and 2 "uppers:" One for using relatively inexpensive .223 ammo, one for larger & more powerful rounds for big-game hunting. Screw the fear & machismo crap, I'll take economy and flexibility any day.

deny it all you like, you & sari think it's a cool & macho thing, if you indeed own or plan to purchase an assault rifle. And that's giving you benny of the doubt.

bossy: and this is why the debate goes nowhere because people like you try to label gun owners as some "fearful immature children" who are living in a different reality. You do the debate no good with your comments.

I"m the reason, the guncontrol debate goes nowhere? for calling gun owners 'fearful immature children'?
Observe how I labelled gun owners 'fearful immature children':

There is no 'real' fear by ordinary americans of having to use an assault rifle to get the better of any criminal or gang, except to weak pathetic minds like wayno's. Who really falls for wayno's idiocy, except weak pathetic minds?
-- There is no real fear of needing an assault rifle by ordinary americans, cause they realize most 'lesser' rifles, most handguns, a shotgun or even a looks real fake gun will do the trick in protecting their homes, as much or better than an assault rifle would.
Ordinary americans fear the carnage an assault rifle can do, either intentionally or unexpectedly, more than they fear the consequences of not owning one.


I'm the reason the guncontrol debate goes nowhere, & not other people twisting about what I say?

the fear being that they won't be able to get one bossy22 Mar 2013 #1
+1 raidert05 Mar 2013 #4
thus creating a self fulfilling prophecy frylock Mar 2013 #7
Yet, there are ebbs in gun purchases, prob. when there us little talk of bans. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #17
post assumes they would then misuse them. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #42
+1 Pullo Mar 2013 #6
People own firearms for many reasons av8r1998 Mar 2013 #2
Dude, look in a mirror Mopar151 Mar 2013 #9
its not about NEED bossy22 Mar 2013 #20
I am fearful of those who carry loaded firearms in a public place. Mopar151 Mar 2013 #26
stastically you shouldn't be bossy22 Mar 2013 #30
"I am fearful..." Of course you are. The vast majority of the gun control issue is all fear-based. Common Sense Party Mar 2013 #41
If you think those are sane.responsible gun owners...... Mopar151 Mar 2013 #43
Cycle of fear seems to leave out governments' efforts to ban Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #3
Pretty thin gruel rrneck Mar 2013 #5
I've never been scared of any firearm I've bought. ileus Mar 2013 #8
Good tools...... n/t Mopar151 Mar 2013 #10
They are tools. nt oldhippie Mar 2013 #14
The cause of gun control would be better served by sarisataka Mar 2013 #11
Assault rifles, a compulsion to warriorhood jimmy the one Mar 2013 #12
Interesting analysis sarisataka Mar 2013 #13
I tend to think the guns being 'vetted' by the military allows a buyer jmg257 Mar 2013 #15
I think what you say is a true perception sarisataka Mar 2013 #16
Fear and pre-occupation with sexual identity is an obsession with gun-controllers... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #18
"I'll take economy and flexibility any day" Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #25
In another time on DU I would have a chance of successfully alerting... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #28
Except the OP is about the cycle of fear that drives folk to buy assautlt rifles Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #33
Thats why police need them. beevul Mar 2013 #39
Police do not need them, except in special circumstances Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #44
I still cannot believe you wish to disarm LEOs. Jenoch Mar 2013 #47
Re-read your statement, tack. nt Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #45
Umm, the AR-15 absolutely dominates centerfire target competition in this country... benEzra Mar 2013 #50
Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #52
and this is why the debate goes nowhere bossy22 Mar 2013 #21
moi l'raison jimmy the one Mar 2013 #22
assume bossy22 Mar 2013 #24
Wow! A veritable air- burst of crap! Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #29
And to think I wasted my time at the VA for a psych eval sarisataka Mar 2013 #32
ruger mortis jimmy the one Mar 2013 #36
Perhaps tone does not come through ... sarisataka Mar 2013 #37
Pop psychology: The cheap seats of intellectual inquiry. nt Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #46
Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #53
Whenever people react based on emotion rather than fact.... av8r1998 Mar 2013 #23
A perfect case in point. benEzra Mar 2013 #48
mosin nagant, a good pole vault jimmy the one Mar 2013 #49
Finn M39 on a 1905 Izhevsk receiver still bearing the Romanov crest, benEzra Mar 2013 #51
the romanovs & otma jimmy the one Mar 2013 #55
Yeah, I call bullshit rl6214 Mar 2013 #19
Of course you do. Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #27
That's funny, I always thought that the cycle of fear drove efforts to ban guns. kudzu22 Mar 2013 #31
There is no effort to disarm the nation. Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #34
Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #54
My kids still love shooting our AR's....even my 8&10 yo's know ileus Mar 2013 #38
Perhaps you could comment on... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #35
Fear sells. Always has. Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #58
Fear sells to the fearful. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #61
I wonder how important it is Jenoch Mar 2013 #40
Apparently, it is not important to those who don't wish to learn about themselves. Starboard Tack Mar 2013 #59
what kind of mirror is it? gejohnston Mar 2013 #60
It was a rhetorical question. Jenoch Mar 2013 #62
Message auto-removed NCState Mar 2013 #56
Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #57
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