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In reply to the discussion: Boys Attack Cyclist Who Fights Back, Kills 1 [View all]TPaine7
(4,286 posts)70. iverglas is a certified bad ass--ready, willing and able to hand out beat downs at a moment's notice
TPaine7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-18-09 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #37
73. For those of you who dont already know iverglas,
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 10:39 AM by TPaine7
I thought I'd help with the introductions:
Civilized, isn't it? Highly evolved. Refined. Doubtless iverglas is a fine example of what we should all strive to be.
Compare from yesterday (or so):
Source.hhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x230249#230697
One "principle" of gun control and other pseudo pacifist BS is that it's always for the other guy. She can rule out violence for us in standing our ground in our own homes. That is perfectly proper, civilized, and evolved. Her defending her purse in public? Now that's different.
Your home. Her purse. Can you see the difference? Can you tell why one is worth defending with force and the other is not?
Sadly, many gun control advocates are like that. Your life, your children, your husband or wife, and your property are in one category--theirs in another. That is why, for instance, Mayor Bloomberg can wonder--with his bullet-proof limo and 24 hr armed detail--why anyone would want a gun. "Guns kill people." Gasp.
Debating hypocrites is embarrassing sometimes; it feels like boxing a paraplegic.
Response to Reply #37
73. For those of you who dont already know iverglas,
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 10:39 AM by TPaine7
I thought I'd help with the introductions:
Individual has obligation -- "moral" and, in civilized societies, legal -- to exercise whatever reasonable option is available, to avoid an assault, before choosing to use force...
Civilized, isn't it? Highly evolved. Refined. Doubtless iverglas is a fine example of what we should all strive to be.
Compare from yesterday (or so):
And no, I wouldn't rule out grabbing the person trying to make off with the purse from my shopping cart. ... And I wouldn't have ruled out beating up the person who did it, if I'd found him/her, frankly, but I'd recognize I was committing a crime ...
Source.hhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x230249#230697
One "principle" of gun control and other pseudo pacifist BS is that it's always for the other guy. She can rule out violence for us in standing our ground in our own homes. That is perfectly proper, civilized, and evolved. Her defending her purse in public? Now that's different.
Your home. Her purse. Can you see the difference? Can you tell why one is worth defending with force and the other is not?
Sadly, many gun control advocates are like that. Your life, your children, your husband or wife, and your property are in one category--theirs in another. That is why, for instance, Mayor Bloomberg can wonder--with his bullet-proof limo and 24 hr armed detail--why anyone would want a gun. "Guns kill people." Gasp.
Debating hypocrites is embarrassing sometimes; it feels like boxing a paraplegic.
Source: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=230532&mesg_id=230923
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You aren't seriously suggesting that these twi situations are the cyclist fighting
Ecumenist
Jan 2012
#6
Makes no sense and you know it. I'm not a gun fanatic but those two boys who atttacked
Ecumenist
Jan 2012
#10
You know what I mean. the fact that a 65 YEAR OLD MAN WAS DEFENDING HIMSELF in
Ecumenist
Jan 2012
#17
The former criminal was even wearing an electronic monitoring device as part of his probation.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#9
I carry mine a few different ways depending on if I'm riding alone or with the kids.
ileus
Jan 2012
#13
Dang, I'll have to check my bike store to see if they have handlebarholster -- If I carried.
Hoyt
Jan 2012
#20
If that happened. Besides, a million more guns for relatively few instances. Seems like pollution.
Hoyt
Jan 2012
#22
Yeah, the old guy should have let them abuse him. 'Cause that wouldn't have been too steep....
PavePusher
Jan 2012
#48
The "Velo-Dog" revolver was specifically marketed as a defense for cyclists against dogs.
Jean V. Dubois
Jan 2012
#35
so much for getting him in a position of weakness....getting killed...ain't that a bitch.
ileus
Jan 2012
#131
"I am quite comfortable saying the onus is on them to organize there lives differently."
EX500rider
Jan 2012
#90
iverglas is a certified bad ass--ready, willing and able to hand out beat downs at a moment's notice
TPaine7
Jan 2012
#70
That's as close as I've ever come to alerting on a post. My skin is crawling as I type.
TPaine7
Jan 2012
#83
Decent people don't advocate for the disarmament of the most vulnerable among them.
Callisto32
Jan 2012
#96
No, my urge is to defend people who had to defend themselves from those that would suggest Bludlust.
Callisto32
Jan 2012
#102
To kill 16 year olds engaged in a life-threatening attack on a senior citizen.
Callisto32
Jan 2012
#94
Despite your petty insults you have failed once again to answer the question.
oneshooter
Jan 2012
#121