Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: LOL, has anyone actually read the "universal background check" legislation that has been proposed?? [View all]jmg257
(11,996 posts)they mentioned figure in to your...'argument'. Actually saw the same quote in different sources from different times, so that was clearly a talking point. Use "Strongly held opinion of the NRA that is often heard" if it makes you feel better.
"Who decides what level of inconvenience is ok?"
I imagine we the people, and our reps who pass the laws. Courts also get involved.
venturing into the area of "shall not be infringed"...
Of course, but as the SCOTUS says, infringements are allowed, there is also goverment interests, etc. Plenty of infringements have been enacted over the years - they are nothing new at all.
"everyone seems to be looking to ignore that area, and concentrate directly on the guns, which makes the motives of those doing that very suspect."
Could be, but not always the case. AWBs are often part of a larger crime bill. Maybe THEY figure controlling gun IS the best way to reduce gun violence? Sure they would be more apt to concentrate on guns if they had nothing to lose, had no positive experience with them, etc. It could also be that we hang out in areas where Guns are THE subject, so we miss other possible provisions, or not talk about them so much (legalizing drugs comes to mind, dealing with gangs, repeat offenders, etc.)
"I don't see it as selfish at all."
Of course it's selfish (for the most part, others are noble re: rights), whether prudent or not. And understandable - you don't want infringements on things you want, or perceive a need for. I, and most people, don't either. If I felt a powerful NEED to have a gun on me all the time, I wouldn't want someone to take that ability away. If I just loved shooting ARs with 30 round mags with my kids, I wouldn't WANT to give that up. &c. Whether its fear or want or desire, there are many selfish reasons people want guns, and reasons not to have their access infringed, or if so as little as posible. Like 'fear', self-interest is NOT necessarily a bad thing to shun, or not admit to...it's all part of the pursuit of happiness we are entitled to.
Anyway, its ALL about weighing those perceived needs against the ability to do better for all, IF just some portion of the liberty can be given up. Of course there will be disagreements on just how much a portion is necessary to be surrendered, so the rest can be better secured. That's what our system of govt was created to figure out.