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In reply to the discussion: Who are the Militia? [View all]jmg257
(11,996 posts)120. Goofy - right? I just never heard that one before!
Knox, in his Militia plan:
The latent springs of human action ascertained by the standard of experience, may be regulated and made subservient to the noble purpose of forming a dignified national character.
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The commanding officer, or general of the advanced legions of the district, shall regulate the manner of the service of the youth respectively, whether it shall be in the infantry, artillery, or cavalry; but after having entered into either of them, no change should be allowed.
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The time of the annual encampments shall be divided into six parts or periods of five days each. The first of which shall be occupied in acquiring the air, attitudes, and first principles of a soldier the second in learning the manual exercise and to march individually and in small squads. The third and fourth, in exercising and manoeuvring in detail, and by battalions, and regiments. In the fifth, the youth of twenty, having been disciplined during the two preceeding annual encampments are to be included. This period is to be employed in the exercise and tactics of the legion; or if more than one, in executing the grand manouvres of the whole body marching, attacking and defending in various forms, different grounds and positions; in fine, in representing all the real images of war, excepting the effusion of blood. The guards, and every other circumstance of the camp, to be perfectly regulated.
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Every State possesses, not only the right of personal service from its members, but the right to regulate the service on principles of equality, for the general defence.
Articles:
but every state shall always keep up a well regulated and disciplined militia, sufficiently armed and accoutered,
Milita Act:
And whereas sundry corps of artillery, cavalry and infantry now exist in several of the said states, which by the laws, customs, or usages thereof, have not been incorporated with, or subject to the general regulation of the militia.
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Of course I do, its right there in the Constitution, the Militia Acts, even the Federalist papers.
jmg257
Jul 2013
#45
It might. But then agan...why would a sand bag brigade need arms? Or to be well regulated? nt
jmg257
Jul 2013
#72
YOU get to define the term "well-regulated"? In spite its use in several other period
jmg257
Jul 2013
#56
Yes! You are of course right. Which is why I dont get all the yap about "militia".
jmg257
Jul 2013
#89
Ha! Ha! You are still on regulated = equipped? Bullshit yesterday, bullshit today,
jmg257
Jul 2013
#125
You might want to read this too, on the importance of preambles in amendments...
jmg257
Jul 2013
#61
Are you stating that there was such a thing as "the unorganized milita" in 1791?
jmg257
Jul 2013
#63
No, its my turn to say again...the militia referred to in 1792 were REGULATED, organized,
jmg257
Jul 2013
#98
True - and mention the creation of the National Guard as the new "well-regulated militia".
jmg257
Jul 2013
#50
re: "...75% americans did not have any federal right to bear arms in late 1700's."
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Jul 2013
#86
Modern usage of term "militia" = anti-government, anti-tax extremists and fruitcakes
Jessy169
Jul 2013
#31
Actually, he's looking at the governments military organization definition. :) n/t
Decoy of Fenris
Jul 2013
#54
Yeah, but I'm having fun too, and his inability to answer is much of the fun n/t
hansberrym
Jul 2013
#154
Perhaps curiosity will get the best of you, and you will read the thread -or maybe not. n/t
hansberrym
Jul 2013
#140
You just caught that? Which makes his whole "unlimited power of the sword" thingie pretty silly,
jmg257
Jul 2013
#81
There you go. So in order to prevent the abuse of the power actually granted
hansberrym
Jul 2013
#142