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Gun Control & RKBA

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krispos42

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Sat Mar 1, 2014, 11:28 AM Mar 2014

###Updated### Group input needed for GC&RKBA policy on allowing self-defense from animals... [View all]

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Last edited Wed Mar 5, 2014, 01:29 PM - Edit history (1)

Hello all,

Recently, this thread by jpak, with reasonably graphic video, was posted in GC&RKBA. In short, it's about a snowmobiler who shoots what appears to be a moose calf after the moose acts in a very aggressive manner towards the snowmobiler and his companion.

The firearm used is a semiautomatic pistol (I believe it is a Glock) and five rounds are fired, downing the young moose before the snowmobilers flee the scene.

The Group's Statement of Purpose is: Discuss gun politics, gun control laws, the Second Amendment, the use of firearms for self-defense, and the use of firearms to commit crime and violence.

This has historically been used and generally understood to apply to human-on-human violence; however, the posting of the moose video shows what is, arguably, a human defending himself against an animal. I was alerted on the thread twice, and that left me with an interesting question that needs resolution.

DU also has a Group for outdoor activities called Outdoor Life Group; its statement of purpose is:Discuss all aspects of hunting, fishing, hiking, camping, rock climbing, mountain biking, skiing and other outdoor sports.

The question before the Group is this: should discussions of defense against animal attacks be allowed in GC&RKBA, or should such threads be locked and referred to Outdoor Life?

This would mean that discussions of animal-defense guns and ammunition would be allowed in GC&RKBA as well as criminal-defense hardware, and that stories about people (joggers, bikers, etc.) shooting dogs, bobcats, badgers, etc., would be allowed.

Constructive input is appreciated.


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I can see from the replies to this thread that the consensus of the respondents are that self-defense against animals fits within the SoP of the Group.

I'll pin this thread to the top of the Group for future reference.

Thank you, everybody, for your input.

-Krispos42

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Firearm laws include the carry of guns in state parks rrneck Mar 2014 #1
If gunners want everyone to carry a gun everywhere all the time jpak Mar 2014 #2
I agree with you. I legally carry on a regular basis and I realize ... spin Mar 2014 #8
Perfectly legit in GC&RKBA and would vote so in a poll. Loudly Mar 2014 #3
The video is allowed by the "the use of firearms for self-defense" just barely. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #4
If they're troll threads yeah lock em' ileus Mar 2014 #5
I think it does fall withing the SOP gejohnston Mar 2014 #6
I posted a reply in the thread under discussion in reply to you. ... spin Mar 2014 #7
Yes these types of discussions should be allowed discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #9
I see no problem with such postings. oneshooter Mar 2014 #10
^^^ My sentiments ^^^ Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #12
I concur as well. nt appal_jack Mar 2014 #19
What they said. DonP Mar 2014 #20
Defense against animals should be covered under self-defense. ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #11
The controllers have a license to pump bilge in GD.. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #13
How does the OP in question differ from "gun porn?" Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #14
That thread posted by jpak was NOT self-defense. The snowmobiler was calling the moose, and Electric Monk Mar 2014 #15
Yea because yelling HEY!!! clffrdjk Mar 2014 #16
In that case, it was not SOP sarisataka Mar 2014 #17
IMO self defense sarisataka Mar 2014 #18
I vote to allow. I recently posted a thread about a young girl who defended her family from a Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #21
Allow it/them; no text jimmy the one Mar 2014 #22
Legit topic for the group, IMO. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2014 #23
Dangerous game drives carry permits here DrCyCoe Jun 2015 #24
Nope. I am pro RKBA, but no shooting anything you aren't going to eat The Green Manalishi Jul 2015 #25
The privilege of arms should be extremely limited BarstowCowboy Aug 2015 #26
Self defense is self defense. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2015 #27
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