Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]jimmy the one
(2,708 posts)icon: No "I think...", no "In my opinion...". You're backing and filling, jimmy.
You harp on a quibble? Duh, not writing for a major magazine here. I clarified afterwards it was a hypothesis, & a valid one since there is supporting evidence to back it up.
Furthermore, writing etiquette: American Univ- ... Avoid using personal references such as "I" or "In my opinion." It is very easy to say "I feel" or "I think," but this adds little to your essay except a weak argument. -- Not always appropriate on DU tho.
icon: Quoth you: >> to refute gunnut belief that it was the increase in guns & shall issue ccw which caused the decline,<< That might be relevant if someone here had claimed that- but they haven't...
Pro gun people here have alluded (if not explicitly taken credit for) to guns somehow being the reason for the violent crime decline early 90's to now. It is gospel on rightwing gun boards & in nra meeting rooms.
icon: You are perfectly free here to play Lewis Carrolls' Humpty Dumpty... "I don't know what you mean by 'glory,'?" Alice said. Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously.
Too much stupid, didn't read.
icon: I'll also point out that amidst your barrage of statistics, you failed to note that *all* violent crime declined, not just that committed with guns.
I 'noted' that in my very post you cited: The declining rate of gun owners from the early 90's, from ~40% down to ~30%, is what caused the murder rate & violent crime rate to fall since the early 90's,...
I really can't help it if you can't properly read; then you have the nerve to create false premises based upon your own reading incompetence. (I will clarify here that the declining rate of gun owners 'contributed' to the declining rates, not totally caused.)
icon: .. A quote from an ancient poem that features divine intervention....and a political allusion from the 18th Century aren't exactly hard evidence.
Yes they are indeed hard evidence, that weapons can incite violent behavior. You suddenly dismiss the bible? it frequently mentions divine intervention but provides a reasonable objective history of that era.
Homer's quote 'the sword incites to violence' gives an apt portrayal of the problems existing then, & satisfies your original request herewith: You are perfectly free to believe that the presence of guns compels otherwise peaceful individuals into murderous rages, but you'll have to offer up some actual evidence if you want us to believe it as well..