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friendly_iconoclast

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29. The "standard NRA crap" IS what you'll get, they are the controllers 'Big Bad'
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:42 AM
Apr 2015

Last edited Thu Apr 9, 2015, 07:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Culture warriors need a boogeyman, a Satan, so they can save society from it-
regardless if society wants to be saved or not.

Think Emmanuel Goldstein in 1984, alcohol in Daniel Okrent's Last Call: The Rise and Fall of Prohibition (an excellent book, btw), or cannabis in pretty much any of Harry J. Anslinger's
work and William Bennett's latest emission Going to Pot:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsullum/2015/02/05/bill-bennetts-confused-and-confusing-defense-of-pot-prohibition/

Bill Bennett's Confused And Confusing Defense Of Pot Prohibition


“With marijuana,” declare William J. Bennett and Robert A. White in Going to Pot, their new prohibitionist screed, “we have inexplicably suspended all the normal rules of reasoning and knowledge.” You can’t say they didn’t warn us.

The challenge for Bennett, a former drug czar and secretary of education who makes his living nowadays as a conservative pundit and talk radio host, and White, a New Jersey lawyer, is that most Americans support marijuana legalization, having discovered through direct and indirect experience that cannabis is not the menace portrayed in decades of anti-pot propaganda. To make the familiar seem threatening again, Bennett and White argue that marijuana is both more dangerous than it used to be, because it is more potent, and more dangerous than we used to think, because recent research has revealed “long-lasting and permanent serious health effects.” The result is a rambling, repetitive, self-contradicting hodgepodge of scare stories, misleading comparisons, unsupportable generalizations, and decontextualized research results...

...Bennett and White exaggerate the increase in marijuana’s potency, comparing THC levels in today’s strongest strains with those in barely psychoactive samples from the 1970s that were not much stronger than ditch weed. “That is a growth of a psychoactive ingredient from 3 to 4 percent a few decades ago to close to 40 percent,” they write, taking the most extreme outliers from both ends. Still, there is no question that average THC levels have increased substantially as Americans have gotten better at growing marijuana. Consumers generally view that as an improvement, and it arguably makes pot smoking safer, since users can achieve the same effect while inhaling less smoke...

...When it comes to assessing the evidence concerning marijuana’s hazards, Bennett and White’s approach is not exactly rigorous. They criticize evidence of marijuana’s benefits as merely “anecdotal” yet intersperse their text with personal testimonials about its harms (e.g., “My son is now 27 years old and a hopeless heroin addict living on the streets…”). They do Google searches on “marijuana” paired with various possible dangers, then present the alarming (and generally misleading) headlines that pop up as if they conclusively verify those dangers. They cite any study that reflects negatively on marijuana (often repeatedly) as if it were the final word on the subject. Occasionally they acknowledge that the studies they favor have been criticized on methodological grounds or that other studies have generated different results. But they argue that even the possibility of bad outcomes such as IQ loss, psychosis, or addiction to other drugs is enough to oppose legalization.


As you can see with all these examples, the CW's approach to factual accuracy relies heavily upon the
faith promoting rumor and the pious fraud...
You mean the facts were "fudged" over there? NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #1
*Gasp* (nt) blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #2
Why are they holding their nighttime CC Apr 2015 #3
Because it is not that big a deal to them? hack89 Apr 2015 #4
Just wondering what ever happen to safeinOhio Apr 2015 #5
Beats me hack89 Apr 2015 #6
I'll give you that the CC Apr 2015 #11
So why do they allow guns in the main venue? hack89 Apr 2015 #12
Not my fears. CC Apr 2015 #14
The disabled gun policy applies to vendors hack89 Apr 2015 #15
I'm sure there will be hundred of shootings, just like Indianapolis last year - oh wait. DonP Apr 2015 #7
Bansalot makes it sound like they won some sort major victory Lurks Often Apr 2015 #8
Don't we go through this annually? beevul Apr 2015 #9
Forget it... VScott Apr 2015 #10
controllers not accurate....tell me no. ileus Apr 2015 #13
I have to laugh every time you call GCRA "bansalot" because very few DUers are actually blocked. Electric Monk Apr 2015 #16
DU is just fortunate this forum is not moderated the same way as Bansalot hack89 Apr 2015 #17
You are the reason gun threads aren't allowed in GD, and that GCRA was created. Electric Monk Apr 2015 #19
Does it make you sad that you can no longer spam GD with gunz threads? hack89 Apr 2015 #21
I don't spam GD with anti-gun threads. That would be other regular DUers Electric Monk Apr 2015 #22
Your forum is two years old hack89 Apr 2015 #23
Thank you for your concern. nt Electric Monk Apr 2015 #24
You brought the subject up hack89 Apr 2015 #25
It's not called "BansMostOfDU" blueridge3210 Apr 2015 #18
You could be honest and refer to GCRA as "BansGunNuts" if you like. Most DUers aren't Gun Nuts. nt Electric Monk Apr 2015 #20
I'm banned and I own a total of two firearms. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #30
If you'e going to lean on that crutch... beevul Apr 2015 #31
"members agree that more guns are not the solution to gun violence" Electric Monk Apr 2015 #32
Anorexic. beevul Apr 2015 #33
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #39
Nothing abusive or malicious about that alert, no sir. beevul Apr 2015 #40
Hard to tell who tried that dumb of an alert DonP Apr 2015 #41
Note the misrepresentation. beevul Apr 2015 #42
EM is an acceptable shorthand. Calling me a muppet is simply rude, on purpose, and you know it. nt Electric Monk Apr 2015 #43
And calling us "Gun Humpers" or "Asshole" isn't rude? Got it. DonP Apr 2015 #44
You're self-identifying with this guy I called a gun nut asshole? That's on you. Electric Monk Apr 2015 #45
Thanks for the confirmation El-Mo, of that hypocritical double standard you seem to embrace DonP Apr 2015 #46
Can you show a single post that says anyone here believes that? hack89 Apr 2015 #34
Here's a recent example Electric Monk Apr 2015 #36
Wow! Once again proving that El Mo's sarcasm and irony meter really needs new batteries DonP Apr 2015 #37
Gun control truly is the new Puritanism- humorless and sarcasm impaired. Nt hack89 Apr 2015 #38
You asked for an example and I gave you one. "Just kidding!" is so junior high. nt Electric Monk Apr 2015 #47
Doubling down? hack89 Apr 2015 #48
Mr. Monk is that the best you can do? Optical.Catalyst Apr 2015 #50
In a forum about guns, in a thread about gunthusiasts with anger issues? LOL, of course you did, ya. Electric Monk Apr 2015 #51
Did what? Optical.Catalyst Apr 2015 #52
mean potable water and working generators, not quantity of guns. nt Electric Monk Apr 2015 #53
I say capabilities, you imply what you want thinking it makes your point Optical.Catalyst Apr 2015 #54
One could interpret that as an implication of dishonesty. Marengo Apr 2015 #55
Yeah, the vast majority are allowed to post there, but the vast majority don't. GGJohn Apr 2015 #26
I have addressed this talking point already Electric Monk Apr 2015 #27
If gun control is so popular, then why can't you controllers get anything passed? GGJohn Apr 2015 #28
The "standard NRA crap" IS what you'll get, they are the controllers 'Big Bad' friendly_iconoclast Apr 2015 #29
Ah, William J. Bennett...father of the original Federal "assault weapon" ban. (n/t) benEzra Apr 2015 #56
And even fewer post over there. n/t oneshooter Apr 2015 #49
GCRA aka Bansalot aka... Puha Ekapi Apr 2015 #35
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