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Showing Original Post only (View all)X-post from GCRA: Okay, I'm finally there. Ban the import, manufacture and sale of semiautomatic... [View all]
Okay, I'm finally there. Ban the import, manufacture and sale of semiautomatic weapons with removable magazines. Every one of them. Long, short all of them. Do a buy back for those who would like to be rid of them.
Why? Two things: a shooter is limited in the number of people he can shoot only by the physical strength to carry ammunition and I'm tired of negotiating from the point of reason which is where we all want to be instead of the extreme. Start with a total ban and move to something reasonable like a national registry, may issue, local background checks including social media.
It's a common practice of the pro gun side the negotiate any policy proposal into ineffectiveness. Oh, sure! we can have UBC but only if the NICS is open to us gunners and we don't have to BC relatives and close friends and we don't have to keep records of transfers and on and on and on.
Yeah! we can buy into a registry if there are are exceptions for our favorite whatever and nobody ever knows that guns are registered and on and on and on.
The Gun Lobby has successfully done this to every piece of legislation that managed to get passed.
Fuck it. Start from the extreme like they do and negotiate to something reasonable.
Why? Two things: a shooter is limited in the number of people he can shoot only by the physical strength to carry ammunition and I'm tired of negotiating from the point of reason which is where we all want to be instead of the extreme. Start with a total ban and move to something reasonable like a national registry, may issue, local background checks including social media.
It's a common practice of the pro gun side the negotiate any policy proposal into ineffectiveness. Oh, sure! we can have UBC but only if the NICS is open to us gunners and we don't have to BC relatives and close friends and we don't have to keep records of transfers and on and on and on.
Yeah! we can buy into a registry if there are are exceptions for our favorite whatever and nobody ever knows that guns are registered and on and on and on.
The Gun Lobby has successfully done this to every piece of legislation that managed to get passed.
Fuck it. Start from the extreme like they do and negotiate to something reasonable.
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It's a common practice of the pro gun side the negotiate any policy proposal into ineffectiveness.
It seems to me, that criminal shooters 'negotiate' said policy proposals which make it onto law, into ineffectiveness, and the answer is always to come back demanding more, as the author does.
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X-post from GCRA: Okay, I'm finally there. Ban the import, manufacture and sale of semiautomatic... [View all]
beevul
Jun 2015
OP
why do I sense that your definition of sensible is very different for the two.
clffrdjk
Jun 2015
#10
I laughed but I already told you I found the irony of a drug addict pushing prohibition to be funny.
clffrdjk
Jun 2015
#12
It's broad satire but therein lies some truths...the slavery bit was delicious.
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#13
The majority of people in this country support gun control. The polls have been pretty clear. If a
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#15
the dichotomy between public support for gun control and the lack of political will
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#26
When slaughter with guns becomes a regular thing, steps like these will reduce the
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#33
I'm afraid your "facts" on Australia are not what the majority of research has found.
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#43
Yeah, Kates and Kleck have been in this thing as far back as I can remember...
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#49
um, pot and coke dollars at work! Holy shit, I've been deceived all these years!
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#51
Oh, please, now don't be trivial. This is serious...I just loved that post and agreed with
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#35
I'm going to say this one more time: as I explained our gun politics are in a death
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#58
I explain this over and over again. Your side doesn't listen or can't hear and
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#57
The unpleasant truth is that you think the NRA is just playing patty cake when it comes
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#63
I believe you are correct but I am wondering why he would go to t he trouble of co-
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#72
saying that not doing anything in the face of the daily slaughter in our streets
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#77
oh, good lord, no offense was meant. I'm trying hard to be sensitive and not upset you.
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#114
more Americans are in favor of gun control than opposed so that cannot be the basis of
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#78
and those people would march into the buzz saw in Washington and find out that
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#80
so we are back to the starting point which is throwing up our hands and saying that
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#82
well, driving drunk essentially "weaponizes" automobiles which is not their basic
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#87
well, free speech is a right and it is subject to "time, place and manner" restrictions.
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#37
"well, free speech is a right and it is subject to "time, place and manner" restrictions."
beevul
Jun 2015
#40
I dunno. What do we do with others in society who violate the law? oops, scusi, "choose
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#21
I'll ask my son for an answer to your question. He is a senior prosecutor in the office
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#27
oh, my, so much bitterness in your tone. Calm yourself, he's just one person...
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#56
humor is lost...guess I really need to be careful...meant to be a bit playful...
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#69
You don't get the benefit of the doubt when one post prior you are saying let's stick to the ideas.
clffrdjk
Jun 2015
#75
nothing emotional about that, it shows just exactly how sincere and trustworthy you are.
clffrdjk
Jun 2015
#103
I say that about the intruder being a family member because I recently saw a news
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#99
I'm here like you are to speak my piece and learn if anything is offered that hasn't
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#105
oh, and the aussies. We could go into dueling sources on those stats, what you have
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#102
hmm, interesting statement "dictated to." I'll have to definitely check that out...
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#110
no, I'll be fair...I don't always go to places that confirm what I believe...
CTyankee
Jun 2015
#112