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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
4. Yet the DoJ through the NIJ is doing it
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 01:02 AM
Jun 2015

Why did they lose this funding? They were giving money to ER doctors like Author Kellermann who make up junk study to push his pet gun control cause. We paid tax dollars for something that was supposed to be the basis of public policy. We got:
ER doctors and public health types with no training in the scientific method constructing biased studies
Who did not submit them to peer review or try to get them published in criminology journals. Kellermann specifically refused to give his raw data or notes to other researchers for review when asked for years. When he did, it was complete junk and invalid.
To quote Lawrance Southwick at the 1994 American Society of Criminology (where the subject was a topic of discussion):

"Generally the level of analysis done on each side is of a low quality. The papers published in the medical literature (which are uniformly anti-gun) are particularly poor science."

Basically, he said that we were paying for studies that were about as scientific as NRA propaganda.
Meanwhile, NIJ has been doing said studies during this "ban" and there have not been any issues. Of course, the results that real criminologists that publish these studies in peer review criminology journals don't get quoted by Brady or Bloomberg.
I propose for CDC to receive such funding, researchers must meet the following conditions:
--Must be done by credentialed scholars in the area being studied. No more ER doctors making a study to fit a pre determined conclusion
--The entire study, including raw data, must be made public for peer review and critique.
--Critiques and comments must also be made public, and counter studies must receive equal funding and same conditions apply.
What's wrong with the DOJ's Unified Crime Report? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #1
So we can't do research on gun violence because of GOP paranoia... SunSeeker Jun 2015 #2
They can still do research, what they can't do is be biased about it, GGJohn Jun 2015 #3
Bullshit. They blocked ALL funding. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #5
You can say bullshit all you want, but the reality is that Pres. Obama issued an EO GGJohn Jun 2015 #6
I was talking about the Republicans. THEY did not approve one dime for ANY research. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #7
You really ought to keep in mind that the same committee which voted this down Shamash Jun 2015 #8
Just can't admit when you're wrong can you? GGJohn Jun 2015 #9
I am not wrong. My words are accurate. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #10
Your words were, and I quote: Shamash Jun 2015 #11
The Dems had a filibuster proof majority for all of 24 working days. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #13
Ah, so Democrats didn't think it was -worth- making Republicans filibuster against Shamash Jun 2015 #14
45,000 people a year were dying without healthcare, hence healthcare reform was the priority. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #15
Thank you for reminding me of the wonderful job we did on the ACA Shamash Jun 2015 #16
You're welcome. And no, my quote that you cite never mentioned the House. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #17
Oh, I see, GGJohn Jun 2015 #12
Yanno, if your side keeps trying to ban "assault weapons"... krispos42 Jun 2015 #18
Yanno, gun ownership is falling. Most guns are owned by gun hoarding fetishists. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #19
a record low since the 1970s gejohnston Jun 2015 #20
Bans on modern-looking rifles and magazines *do* target mainstream gun owners, not criminals, benEzra Jun 2015 #22
I doubt the polls. krispos42 Jun 2015 #23
Again with the insults, do you know how to have a conversation? n/t oneshooter Jun 2015 #24
Yet the DoJ through the NIJ is doing it gejohnston Jun 2015 #4
Just one example of the CDC's gross dishonesty: pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #21
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