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benEzra

(12,148 posts)
22. Bans on modern-looking rifles and magazines *do* target mainstream gun owners, not criminals,
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 09:34 AM
Jun 2015

because rifles (modern-looking or not) are the *least* likely of all weapons to be used by "criminals and the mentally ill". Of course, I'm sure you already know that.

Murder, by State and Type of Weapon, 2013 (FBI)
[font face="courier new"] Total murders...................... 12,253
Handguns............................ 5,782 (47.2%)
Firearms (type unknown)............. 2,079 (17.0%)
Clubs, rope, fire, etc.............. 1,622 (13.2%)
Knives and other cutting weapons.... 1,490 (12.2%)
Hands, fists, feet.................... 687 (5.6%)
Shotguns.............................. 308 (2.5%)
Rifles................................ 285 (2.3%) [/font]

The trend in rifle homicide, 2005-2013 (from FBI Uniform Crime Reports 2005-2013, Table 20, collated):

[font face="courier new"] 2005: 442
2006: 436
2007: 450
2008: 375
2009: 348
2010: 358
2011: 323
2012: 302
2013: 285 [/font]

I'm sure you also know that the 32-percent household ownership figure from the General Social Survey is a deep outlier, probably because it involves describing your gun ownership face to face with some stranger from Chicago over the course of an hour and a half interview, and the interview is explicitly NON-anonymous. The holes in the GSS dataset and the resulting skew compared to anonymous polls are, of course, why it's the only household-ownership number that the prohibition lobby likes to cite.

What's wrong with the DOJ's Unified Crime Report? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #1
So we can't do research on gun violence because of GOP paranoia... SunSeeker Jun 2015 #2
They can still do research, what they can't do is be biased about it, GGJohn Jun 2015 #3
Bullshit. They blocked ALL funding. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #5
You can say bullshit all you want, but the reality is that Pres. Obama issued an EO GGJohn Jun 2015 #6
I was talking about the Republicans. THEY did not approve one dime for ANY research. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #7
You really ought to keep in mind that the same committee which voted this down Shamash Jun 2015 #8
Just can't admit when you're wrong can you? GGJohn Jun 2015 #9
I am not wrong. My words are accurate. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #10
Your words were, and I quote: Shamash Jun 2015 #11
The Dems had a filibuster proof majority for all of 24 working days. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #13
Ah, so Democrats didn't think it was -worth- making Republicans filibuster against Shamash Jun 2015 #14
45,000 people a year were dying without healthcare, hence healthcare reform was the priority. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #15
Thank you for reminding me of the wonderful job we did on the ACA Shamash Jun 2015 #16
You're welcome. And no, my quote that you cite never mentioned the House. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #17
Oh, I see, GGJohn Jun 2015 #12
Yanno, if your side keeps trying to ban "assault weapons"... krispos42 Jun 2015 #18
Yanno, gun ownership is falling. Most guns are owned by gun hoarding fetishists. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #19
a record low since the 1970s gejohnston Jun 2015 #20
Bans on modern-looking rifles and magazines *do* target mainstream gun owners, not criminals, benEzra Jun 2015 #22
I doubt the polls. krispos42 Jun 2015 #23
Again with the insults, do you know how to have a conversation? n/t oneshooter Jun 2015 #24
Yet the DoJ through the NIJ is doing it gejohnston Jun 2015 #4
Just one example of the CDC's gross dishonesty: pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #21
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