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SecularMotion

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Mon Jul 20, 2015, 09:11 PM Jul 2015

Why Military Security Experts Know That Arming All Troops Is Not the Answer [View all]

The argument that all military service members should be armed with guns to protect themselves — proffered by GOP presidential candidates Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, and Donald Trump in the wake of the shooting deaths of four Marines and a sailor last week in Chattanooga, Tennessee — is so basic that there’s not much argument to it at all. Railing against “gun-free zones” last Friday, Trump summed the case up in this way: “This sick guy had guns and shot them down. These are decorated people. These are people who could have handled guns very easily. They would have had a good chance if they had a gun.” In making their cases, the presidential hopefuls echoed a Connecticut car repairman whose shop is near a military recruiting office, who told the Associated Press that arming its occupants made perfect sense to him. “Most of them are trained infantrymen,” the repairman asserted. “That definitely would make it a lot more safe.” They’re military, they know how to use guns, how could we not have every one of them be armed all the time, just in case?

The argument is intuitive enough for a political sound bite — and, like many sound bites, does not hold up well under fact-checking. It reflects a basic misconception about the average military member’s proficiency with guns, and it flat-out misses the reality that armed-forces installations are not “gun-free zones” by any stretch of the imagination. Indeed, the military has fairly liberal guidelines empowering its commanders to arm members to defend themselves. It’s just that those guidelines prioritize personal safety and the high likelihood of gun mishaps over statistically rare tragedies like the Chattanooga shooting.

http://www.thetrace.org/2015/07/military-bases-chattanooga-gun-free-over-arming/
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Wow a blog commentary (nt) Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #1
Blog fraud. There were no military experts cited in the article stating what the headline claims. nt Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #2
I am sure the poster Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #4
So, who exactly blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #3
You think you are going to get an answer Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #5
It's worth asking the question. blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #6
I agree Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #7
I'd settle for knowing Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #8
I would be embarrassed Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #9
It's not unlike the WaPo op-ed blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #10
I call bullshit gejohnston Jul 2015 #11
"no more qualified to neutralize an active shooter sarisataka Jul 2015 #14
There must be money in disarming people; or at least future money, what's in it for Bloomy??? ileus Jul 2015 #17
Two things sarisataka Jul 2015 #21
In Bloomberg's own words: benEzra Jul 2015 #26
And what if St. Peter is cleaning his Garand when Bloomie arrives? DonP Jul 2015 #27
And I thought only Marion Barry was on crack. ileus Jul 2015 #28
Bloomberg does get around Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #15
We have Marines guarding embassies, but they're not equipped to guard enlistment stations? pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #12
Embassy guards are highly trained combat troops hack89 Jul 2015 #18
and even the admin an support types do firearms training gejohnston Jul 2015 #19
Embassy guard can be from any MOS hack89 Jul 2015 #22
Part of the requirements for Marines on oneshooter Jul 2015 #23
My jarhead friends remind me constantly that "Every Marne is a Rifleman" DonP Jul 2015 #20
Oh yeah......well aware of the point in your subject line Don. pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #29
Strawman. pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #13
I know...I know let me answer; Because guns kill people???? ileus Jul 2015 #16
When installing washerless sparkplugs, observe these rules: Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #24
I think the military experts from the OP would agree. nt Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #25
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